Analysing Western Christian Hypocrisy

When Allah in the Quran tells us about the state of the believers and the state of the disbelievers, as Muslims were constantly reciting Fatiha, the opening chapter of the Quran, And every Muslim knows. We ask Allah to guide us to the path of those who earned Allah's favor. And as Muslims, we know that Jesus Christ peace and blessings be upon him, the the true messiah. He wasn't a Jew, and he wasn't a Christian. So he's from those people who earned Allah's pleasure, who earned the favor of the creator that sent him and those like him.

And not like those who earned your wrath. And as Muslims, we learn very early on as reverts. We learn very early on. Those who earned the wrath of Allah were those who still had access to the essence of revelation, but chose to sell it, chose to distort it, chose to abandon it, chose to kill the people who bore that message. And, of course, in modern times, that is none other than Yahut.

It is the Jews who have the essence of revelation. They have the language that Jesus spoke. They have the language that Moses spoke. They have the essence of their teachings, maybe not the pure authentic teachings from thousands of years back from Moses and, you know, two thousand years ago for Asa, but they have enough to know. But what they do is not reflective of what was revealed to them.

But then when we started talking about Christians, those who went astray. And that going astray, as you've, accurately deduced, is in fact their hypocrisy. You know, when you think about, the fact that in The United States, just within government, that 90% of the house and the senate the senate identify as Christian, Three quarters of Democrats and 99% of all Republicans identify as Christians, but their government could not be less Christlike. Christian, Christianity, followers of Christ. If you took any bible and any translation, New American Bible Standard Version, New International Translation, New World Translation, if you wanted to take the King James version or the New King James version, the revised standard version, the English standard version, the new living word, whichever translation you prefer from biblegateway.com or any place that you go to pick up your bible, and you just found a the red letters of Jesus Christ teachings in the four gospels.

Nothing about the people who identify as people who are supposed to be Christ like do or navigate, think, or operate in any way that is reflective of how Jesus lived. Even when you just think about October 7 sheikh. If Jesus Christ were to come on the face of the planet today and you have all these Christians, we support Zionists, we support the Israel occupied state, these so called western powers, so called western entities, so called Western civilizations and countries. If Jesus Christ were to come on the face of the planet right now, Christian, ask yourself, would he stand with the Palestinians, or would he stand with the Israelis? It's a very simple question.

That level of hypocrisy is baffling. The fact that anybody will go by a name that says that my whole mission in life is to be Christ like, while the way that the their governance, the way that their ethics drive them to view a a calamity that's happening on the other side of the planet right now. If Jesus Christ were to land on the planet right now, who would he identify more with? The Muslims that you're killing that he told us in the book of Matthew chapter five verse 39 to turn the other cheek? The Palestinians that you judge as less than when in the book of Matthew chapter seven verse number one, Jesus Christ himself said red letters, judge not lest ye be judged.

The Palestinians that are supposed to be in the holy land, that are supposed to be neighbors to Jews and Christians that in the book of Matthew chapter 29 verse number 39 said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. Is this is this the espousal of Jesus's claims of his teachings of those who claim to be like him? I mean, if Jesus Christ were to land on the face of the planet right now, who would he come up to and say shalom to? Would he say it to the Israelis? Would he say it to the Western Christians, or would he say it to the Palestinians?

Would he say it to the Muslims in the global South? So when we start talking about Christian hypocrisy, the fact that they call themselves Christian is the hypocrisy, like you astutely noted. You know, the more I think about it and the more I reflect on it, all forms of Christian values couldn't be further from what, from their messiah, from their savior, the person that they say came and died for all of my sins, from the excessive hypersexualization of women in Western society, from all forms of pornographic imagery and exposure that this that that that is exported from the West, from these countries that have determined we should separate church from state, but we should identify as Christ like even if the only time we are allegedly like Christ is in church, which he he never went to church. The whole thing is. All of it is.

It's absolute hypocrisy at its peak. Ethically, socially, economically, they follow their desires. They follow their. They follow their, the base elements of themselves that Jesus told his disciples to let go of. If you want to, you know, believe and follow me, then you have to leave everything.

This is the story of the rich man who came to Jesus Christ, but he couldn't give up the world. This example from their own book that they claim is the word of god, from their savior that they say died for all their sins, from the name that they took from the person that they're supposed to follow, and their character, and their s and their ethics, and their society, and the world, he would've he would not look their way. He would say, away from you. I know you're not. So when we start talking about Christian hypocrisy, this is the essence of it in a nutshell, and this is what Christians need to grapple within themselves with.

This is what they need to come to terms with. Do you really wanna be Christ like? Because if so, how you handle your civilization, so called, and other human beings on the face of the planet will drive you away from the person that you say is supposed to be saving you. I'll let you. And I'm a Muslim, and I was a Christian.

But let's just claim for a second, and we speak prophet in Allah, that if your book is right in that he died for you, would he accept you when these are your ethics and your values? I think not. So, yeah, the essence of Christianity, especially in the West, is nothing short of hypocrisy.

The the whole problem with it, and one of the things that that led me to come to Islam was that the fact of the matter is that being Christian has nothing to do with being Christ like. It has nothing to do with actually trying to follow the example of It has nothing to do with trying to be like Jesus. Mm-mm. Because even practically speaking, if you want to be like Jesus, you're you have you don't have enough information

That's right.

To even be like Jesus. And when I was under the misapprehension that I was a Christian, I was, you know, studying the Bible and so on, and realizing, of course, as many Christians do, if they're honest with themselves, that you're not gonna find anywhere in the New Testament in the gospels where Jesus says to go to church. That he says to go to church on Sundays. That he says any of the things that have to do with your practice as a Christian, Jesus didn't tell you to do any of that. So everything that makes you a Christian is something very distinct from actually trying to follow Isa Alaihi Salaam.

So at a certain point in in my life, I decided, well, if I'm going to be Christian, then that means that I have to try to actually be like Jesus. And trying to be like Jesus, you you're the the first thing that you encounter is that that there's a very serious lack of information. I don't know what he ate. I don't know how he dressed. I don't know how he did anything.

There's no information. There's just some parables that are told that he tells, some some sort of moral axioms that he delivers. But in terms of actually, practically speaking, how do I live this way? I didn't have a way to do that. There was there's there's a dearth of information.

And so being Christ like has nothing to do with being Christian. So when you say that there's, you know, 90% of the people in congress are Christian, I believe you. They are. Because it has nothing to do with being like Jesus. If you want to be like Jesus, then you will become a Muslim.

And that's what happened to me.

That's

true. If you want the the exactly the thing of trying to be like Jesus and follow the religion of Jesus and trying to imitate Jesus and trying to live your life according to the way that he lived his life, you will inevitably, come to the conclusion that you have to be a Muslim.

You know? The deeper perversion that comes to my mind is how they have essentially turned Jesus Christ into their imaginary friend. An imaginary friend that is an enabler for every sin. It's disgusting. It's it's disgusting.

Jesus loves me this, I know, for the bible tells me so. Jesus told you to live a certain type of way. He had disciples that lived a certain type of way, and anyone who studied Christianity in any level, you know that most of them were killed in very brutal and harsh ways or exiled and isolated from people for not conforming to the society that they lived in. But what have we turned Jesus into in the West? Well, first of all, you're not even saying his name the right way.

But maybe you would say, well, Jesus doesn't care. Well, that's very convenient that he doesn't care that you call them by his right name or not. Maybe, you know, this idea of Thanksgiving. Yeah. We completely eliminated, native and indigenous people from this country.

What? Jesus Christ, let's eat a turkey and thank god for something. You've turned Christianity into consumerism. You've turned the gospel of Jesus Christ into prosperity doctrine. You said that if god loves you, he gives you a lot.

He gives you a lot more. That's western supremacy, white nationalism in a nutshell. You beat it into the backs of my forefathers, and now the, I have an entire generation of African Americans who have to take this twisted image of Jesus Christ and then twist it and warp it even more to accommodate for the terrible social conditions that they live in. It becomes their outlet from their deprivation, and it becomes an excuse for white nationalistic elevation by people who have turned Jesus into just their imaginary friend. It's delusional.

It's scary. Christmas. You don't even have to Google it anymore. Once upon a time, maybe this stuff was very foreign, but it's all pagan. Christianity.

Christmas, Easter, paganism, all over it. You cannot escape it. It's not in your book, but it is found in, you know, all of these civilizations that worshiped other than Jesus Christ, worshiped other than who sent Jesus Christ. You're right, Sheikhna. If you really wanna be Christ like, then you would just be a Muslim.

People ask me why did I become Muslim, or how was it becoming Muslim? Tell me it's the easiest choice I ever made in my entire life. Every Jew was supposed to become a Christian. Every Christian was supposed to become a Muslim. You just stopped reading your book.

You just stopped at Revelation because that was convenient. It was scary.

But the thing is is, like, when you talk about they turned Christianity into this or they turned Christianity into that, Christianity itself was already you turning the teachings of Isa into something else already. They're old. So you started with distortion from the beginning. It's not gonna go anywhere but to more distortion. Mhmm.

Know? Like, saying, for example, the Jews were supposed to become Christians, and Christians are supposed to become Muslims. No. The the you were never supposed to be a Jew to begin with. You were always supposed to be a Muslim.

So the Because you have you have you have the the among Israel. Mhmm. And then you have the people who distorted it. That's right. Who decided to call it something else.

And the same with the Christians. Like, is one of the things that, as as I say, this is what led me this is really the original thing that led me to start looking at other religions. Mhmm. Was that when you look in the bible, you cannot identify what was the religion of Jesus. Clearly, the religion of Jesus was not Christianity.

So there we already have a problem. If you're a Christian, you already have a problem. But then if you say, okay. Well, he was a Jew. Well, the the scholars and the rabbis and stuff like that would have argued with you at the time.

They did. Yeah.

They yeah. So he was a heretic according to your people. The the the people that you say he was from their religion. Yeah. They did not regard him as that.

That's

right. So that's because he was following actual Wahi. He was following revelation. He was following belief. He was following Islam.

Yeah. You know? So then because this is what the there's only been one religion, and everything else has has has been a distortion from the that was given to the prophets. Mhmm. There's only ever been one religion, and it was Islam, and there there was among the Yahud, and there's there were who followed.

Mhmm. But that period was very short.

That's right.

The period when there was Wabminin who were following Nabi'ulisa alaihi salaam and who were upholding his, actual teachings, that was a very short period. And it was and it was immediately followed by the distortion of his teachings by the one who was his enemy in his lifetime

That's who

wanted to have him killed in his lifetime Mhmm. Now became your leader who created this this the worst distortion that you could possibly make of the teachings of of now became the so called religion of Christianity, which therefore, if it changes into consumerism, so what? It started off already as the worst possible distortion and misteaching of what taught. Yes. It began that way by even coming up with something called Christianity already.

You've already abandoned Jesus and and and completely distorted what he was teaching to where, you know, there's no way ever that would claim to be God or be the son of God and ask people to worship him, and you can't even find him doing that even in your bible. Mhmm. Even in the the gospels, you can't find him telling people to worship him and saying that he is God or what have you. You know? So you you already from the beginning, the fact that you the the the moment that you came up with something called Christianity, it already became something completely separate from what he taught.

And it already became something where it has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to be like him. You it it began as a distortion. So it doesn't matter how many distortions of it take place after that, whether whether it becomes consumerism or it becomes anything else. Even if it becomes communism, it's not gonna make it any better.

You know, to to your point, and and the reason why I want to have this conversation with you is besides the fact that we always have really great conversations, but is you see that same trend in their politics. It's not a democratic republic in their elections. It's not an election. It's just America, you know, this is our it's not your country. You know?

We have to no. You don't. That same distortion on a spiritual level, that tolal, that misguidance there, is then found in every other form of misguidance, whether it's their take on sexuality, on gender identity, on democracy, on freedom. It's all emblematic of the fact that at least seven, some statistics say as many as eight or nine out of 10 Americans identify as a Christian, even if only culturally or even if only based on their upbringing. That spiritual distortion within the heart fragments their perception of reality, distorts their ability to understand the harm that they wreak across the entire planet, and it all is this sort of validation of, well, when I die, I'm gonna be saved.

You know? These are people who feel like at every area of existence, economically, socially, in terms of civilization and society, And now in terms of their, in terms of eschatology, in terms of their salvation, we're superior. We're we've already won. We've already got it all figured out. And when you look at the election process and you look at, Trump being supported by Christians, when this person is a vile human being, and it's not my assessment, we don't judge the intention of what's in a person's hearts.

Just look at the the criminal convictions. Look at the sexual harassment lawsuits. Look at the allegations surrounding this person. Say what you want about Jesus, the atheist that may be watching this. He wasn't accused of doing those types of things.

But you know who was a really terrible person in Jesus' time? Paul was. He wasn't a good person. He killed Christians. He did not have a good background.

Even when you read into the book of Acts, when you look at the history of the book of James, the the disciples of Jesus Christ were averse to this man. They did not want to embrace this man as a part because of the type of person he was. And Trump has become a distortion of all of the values that they think will make America great again. It's the same sort of broken, fragmented, contradictory, and hypocritical mindset that you see that comes from this the fruit of the poisonous tree that is Christianity, at least by my determination. I think it's a part of the problem.

Yeah.

I mean, I understand what you're saying. But like I said, for for me, from my point of view, from my perspective, I don't see any disconnect or any contradiction between Trump saying he's a Christian and the Christians who are supporting Trump being Christians. And people who support bombing Gaza being Christians, people who support Zionists being Christians. Mhmm. I yes.

This is Christianity. There isn't a hypocrisy there because Christianity has nothing to do with being like Jesus.

I see. I see.

It has nothing to do with it. It the Christianity from the beginning, the fact that that it even exists as a word, as a religion, or whatever, already is a rejection of Jesus. It's a rejection of Jesus. So it it it it's it's it I don't see the hypocrisy there because the whole basis of it is a rejection of Jesus. It is it's a whole rejection of trying to be Christ like from the beginning.

It it's based on a distortion and, an abandonment, and in fact, a hostility to the teachings of Jesus. This is what makes it what it is. So there's no I don't see any contradiction there whatsoever. For me personally, I don't see any contradiction between the worst, most immoral, most deranged, most degenerate, most vile, most violent, most hostile, most aggressive, most savage behavior being in any way whatsoever inconsistent with Christianity. I mean, to your point, I It's completely sorry.

Sorry, brother. It's completely inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus. But so is Christianity. So it's it's I don't see any contradiction between any of those degenerate, horrible barbaric barbaric qualities. Those are not in any way whatsoever contradictory with Christianity.

They are just contradictory with the way of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus because Christianity itself is contradictory to the teachings of Jesus. Sure.

I I guess I well, first of all, you are quantifiably correct because kufr, dalal, and and will lead to this type of fisk and facade. So disbelief. Spiritual associationism saying that god is more than one or has co equals or partners. These things are, of course, going to inevitably lead to facade, corruption. It's going to lead to fist.

It's gonna lead to rebelliousness against the limits of god almighty, divine law, which will, of course, fly in the face of human nature. I suppose my deductive reasoning is coming from a bit a more syllogistic approach. You know? Allah tells us in the Quran when describing the hypocrites, that there are from humanity people who say they believe in God, and they believe in the hereafter and afterlife, a resurrection, judgment, heaven, hell, but they're not actual believers. And now this ayah, the the the the the specificity of it is applying to Muslims, but we see that disease makes itself manifest amongst non Muslims too because this this is this is Kufrul Akbar.

This Nifaqul Akbar is Kufr. It's major hypocrisy is indeed disbelief, and that is what Christians have. But I also think about the that when it's told to them, don't spread corruption in the land. They say that we are the ones who are actually rectifying things, but Allah says, no. In fact, you are the.

You are the people who are spreading corruption. Well, but but they don't have the. They don't have the perception, the self awareness to see that they're actually the source of the problem. And so between the little bit of missionary work and between going to church and between Christmas and Easter as pagan as it is, there's always this sort of built in excuse that, well, you know, but we try, and we do our best, and we're all sinful, and we blah blah blah. So there's all this sort of, like, built in excuses that we also see across their politics, across their destruction of other reason regions, why they had to bring freedom to these places where they killed hundreds of thousands of people, why this place that's supposed to be pro pro freedom and democracy, equal injustice for all, is now saying, except for Palestinians, and then funding and supporting the destruction of that, why Muslims are, terrorists and evil and violent and all this stuff when the average Christian is actually the greatest terrorist when it comes to how they deal with one another in our country where every eight seconds a woman is sexually assaulted, how they deal with other countries, you know, the war crimes that are being committed by soldiers.

I mean, it all seems to me, again, from a syllogistic perspective, that it's all interconnected to this being a predominant spiritual ideology in the West. And I don't even know where you would begin to help someone understand that, but maybe, you know, that's a roundabout way of just saying, like, you know, this is what Kufr does to people, and this is the problem in and of itself.

Well, I mean, you can't expect anything else from from a from a religion that really does tell you that no matter what you do, you can be forgiven as long as you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Mhmm. As your Lord and savior. So there there's no moral requirement in terms of your behavior and your conduct. Mhmm.

There's no requirement whatsoever. You can do anything and everything. And, you know, so the you're you're they're they're they're astray, but in their astrayness, they believe that they're guided. And just like what you were talking about, this is why I don't see the hypocrisy of it. Because they do believe in they do believe in Allah and the last day, but they believe that none of this matters.

Mhmm. Because as long as they accept Jesus as their personal savior, who died for their sins, then their sins don't matter anymore. Their sins have already been taken care of two thousand years ago. So it doesn't matter what they do. Because the like I said, there's no moral requirement.

There's no moral standard that you actually have to live by. Your conduct can be any kind of way. You can live this this is why I remember telling telling a coworker, years and years and years ago. If if someone who didn't know you and who didn't know me followed you around for twenty four hours and followed me around for twenty four hours, they would know that I'm a Muslim. But if they followed you for twenty four hours, they would have no idea if you have a religion or not.

Because your actual conduct is in is is indistinguishable from an atheist. Because you can drink, you can, date, you can have boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever. You can do all sorts of things. There's no limit on your behavior. There's no you don't have a law that you have to follow because you've already gotten the blank check pardon for all your sins for all time to come.

Mhmm.

You know? Or no matter what you do. So you've so already there was a separation of church and state from the from the beginning of Christianity, actually. Philosophically, ideologically, morally. There's already a separation between your belief and your actions.

You know? There's already a separation between the the practical application of your belief, and and any moral any moral belief, any moral philosophy. They're completely unconnected. There's never been a connection, you know, because the actual, practical application of your belief system is what we have seen. There's no contradiction here whatsoever.

The way the West has behaved, the way Europe has behaved, so called Western civilization, the way America behaves, whether it's Trump or Biden or whoever else, there is no inconsistency or contradiction whatsoever between that and Christianity

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in my view.

No. I mean, you're you're not wrong, you know, to continue from my end to harp on the same point would just be pedantic at this point. But but the reason why I, you know, highlight Christian hypocrisy in particular is because even other civilizations that have Christianity are not as bad as Western Christians. 99% of Mexico is Christian. You know?

Now you would think brothers in Christ. You know? That becomes a part of the me, my brother in Christ. What those are your the ones that you're building the wall to keep out and saying don't have a right to live next to you. Okay.

The hypocrisy. So even in their politics, you know, but Mexico would never do to the world what America is doing to the world. And even how Christianity made it to Mexico is a testament to how un Christ like Christianity actually is. Or when you look at, look at Christianity aside, I know that there's, you know, some white nationalist or some racist who's like, oh, Hispanic people. You don't know them.

You not met them. Their nuclear family structure, their ethics, their morality is vastly superior. That that they are coming here for their family, for the for the world that we've essentially destroyed from America. You know? But besides the point, even when you look at and and it's become a means and an extension of racism to really try to harp on Indians.

Yeah? Indians this, Indians that. The sort like, it's become a part of the social, social media meme culture to have this very stereotypical view of Indians. But Indians on the Internet, you know, pro Zionist this and so on, that's not them in real life. They're the so amongst the smartest, most educated, and and and most driven people in The United States of all minority, so called minority groups.

Indians are amongst the best to excel in every sector, medicine, IT, mathematics, academia. They go to the heights in a way that the people that look down on them on the Internet don't. But they have a super polytheistic, shirky turkey gobble gobble culture with the pantheon of gods and their you know, the practices with the cows. I'm not gonna pretend to understand it. But they would they don't do to the world what America does to the world.

So something about their very particular brand of of of that just makes them categorically worse than even other Christians in the same core side of the planet is them or even other types of on the other part of the world. Maybe I'm misreading it. I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, we've talked about it in the psychological decolonization, Quranic psychological decolonization where I talk about what I think to be the origin of all of this, which is the origin of them as a as a people in Europe. Mhmm. And their heart conditions and the way that they developed. And so they have their own peculiar characteristics.

Mhmm. That the peculiar characteristics of their kopar, like the violence, the domination, the greed, the materialism.

Me just say, by the way, just as a disclaimer, I'm not saying that those other civilizations do not have a plethora of problems or that they are not do not have bad practices and have not been cruel towards Muslims or non Muslims alike. I'm just saying what has been manufactured by Western Christians is unprecedented. You know? So off one check. I just Yeah.

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hear someone typing now.

Yeah. I mean, the point is the point is it it it that that this is this is why you have never really changed because because you were you were the same now as a people as you were before you were Christian. You're the same. Because it's just more kuffer. It's just another you because you you never actually at any point started following any guidance.

Mhmm. Mhmm. So you're you're you're you haven't changed. You're the same as as in your pagan days to now. And you even adapted Christianity, to to incorporate all of your paganist practices and ideas and so on.

Because again, the only reason that you get to call yourself Christian is because the religion itself does not require you to change your behavior and your conduct and even your morality so that you can be like Jesus. Mhmm. The the whole this is the whole point. Because if you wanted to be like Jesus, then you would have to become a Muslim. Mhmm.

Because Jesus followed a certain way. He followed a certain morality, a certain type of practice, a certain type of worship, a certain type of conduct that your religion that's named after him does not require of you in any way whatsoever. None of the things are required of you that Jesus did or taught. None of that is required of you. And that's why you accepted this because it doesn't require you to change in any way.

So the people who come from different parts of the world, they also haven't changed. Christianity didn't make them better. You talk about the people in Mexico or South America, what have you. They're still the same as they've ever been, but they just don't have the same, peculiar qualities of the westerners, of the Europeans. You have your characteristics from Europe.

They have their characteristics from Central And South America. The Indians have their characteristics and so on. You know? I mean, even even, like, Hinduism has put certain changes and certain rules in their society, like the caste system and so on. They have implemented certain things as a result of their, their their belief.

Mhmm. Even though even though really, you can't actually even call Hinduism a religion. It's culture. And it's and it's I mean, seriously, it's not. If there isn't a unified religion, There's there it's it's even Hindus themselves will tell you that, that it's not really a religion.

It's a culture. And it's it's very localized, the practices and the beliefs and so on. So doesn't change the people. And if and if and if a people don't change, then they maintain that that they they preserve their and they stay the same. You never change.

Christianity didn't change anyone. Hinduism doesn't really change anyone. Judaism doesn't change anyone unless you follow the rules. And if you're following the rules, the actual rules, not the ones that your rabbis wrote down, but the ones that were written in the itself, if you're following those rules, then you'll be us. Then you'll already be Muslim anyway because that's all there's ever been, the people who are actually following the.

That's what that's what makes us distinct from everyone else is that we follow the actual guidance, and you don't follow guidance. It's very simple. It's incredibly simple. So when if people are not following guidance, well, you can expect anything from these people, and it's not inconsistent with them not following guidance. Like I said, for the for the Americans, for the for the Europeans, for the Western so called civilization, whatsoever, or whatever you want to call it, all of the violence and the savagery, the brutality, and the colonization, and so forth, everything that they've done is completely consistent with the fact that they don't follow guidance.

Mhmm. There's no contradiction there. There's no hypocrisy. You can't be a hypocrite to lack of guidance, except that you're claiming something about yourself. But the thing that you claim, for example, we believe in Allah in the last day.

Okay. I believe that you believe that. But you but for you, it requires nothing of you. You think that you're already clear on judgment day Yes. For no matter what you do.

To to your point, Sheknah, and I won't take too much more of your time, but just two things came to mind. An ayah from Surah Al Imran, I believe it's verse number maybe 77 or 78. There's a group from amongst them, from the people of the book that have distorted the words of of of their book. They tried to make it seem like that this is from the from the book. It's from Revelation.

But it's not actually from Revelation. And they say that this is from God. But it's not from God. But they say about Allah Allah. And they know that they're lying.

They know it. They've distorted all of this stuff. They say that it's from revelation. They say but it it's not. They try to make it seem like it's coming from somewhere, but it's literally coming from nowhere.

They try to make it seem like it's coming from oh, you know, the word of god just came to me. No. It didn't. You're saying about god almighty, the creator of the multiverse as we know it and don't know it, a lie. And you know it.

You know that this is not divine. You know that this is not correct, but you're still persistent in any way. So that aya was one that came to mind. And the second thing that you, said just from your analysis of just sort of that that lineage of of of of Kufr and Shurk indigenous to Europe that's not necessarily indigenous to other parts of the world. You know, African Americans' approach to Christianity is categorically different than white Americans' approach to Christianity.

It's, you know, pretty well known fact that the most racially segregated day in America is Sunday. It's church. You have Korean church, Hispanic church, white church, black church. Right? It's a Nigerian church.

Like, it's all very, very different than white Christianity. And the way that black Christians strive is is reflect in their in their beliefs is very much reflective of their lineage, of what it what belief and lifestyle and stuff like that looks like in the motherland, in the continent of Africa, and in those countries where those slaves were were taken from. And then you always get some idiot in the comment section. It's like, oh, well, black people sold black people into slavery too. Like, no even no need to even waste your time with such people.

But even when you look at Hispanic culture, Latin American culture, when you look in Central America, South America, when you look in Spain, how those Christians are is is very, very different than how they're devout. You know, the rosary beads, it's all we're Muslims. We don't believe in any of that to be true. We all consider it to be misguidance, and we ask Allah to guide them. Allah and me.

Their approach to devotion is still categorically different. You're not gonna find nuns in America. You know what I mean? Like like, they don't even go that far with their own book, which they're taking this from the teachings of Paul, but look at how devout they are to that monasticism, becoming a nun, things like that. It's just not a practice there.

But then when you look at places like India or even when you look at China, Japan, Again, we can't say that everything about every culture is all great. But when you compare their coffer and their their history to America, they've never outsourced the same type of brutality that these that this place has has outsourced. So even when you look at the devolution, do we call it? It's like a super bacteria that's just like over time, it's become stronger and stronger within the hearts and minds and souls of of Westerners. These other parts of the world were forced to get along with other people.

Yeah. They fought. Yeah. There were wars. Yeah.

There was but they never went as far as what the West did. And even to this day, they're not going as far as the West is. Last last thought that I had about this is, like, for so long, Jews lived side by side with Muslims until Western influence came. You know? And it's just, you know, like, baffling.

Think about that. Like, for the literally thousands of years, fourteen centuries from the Muslim side, but they were Muslims all along. Yeah? So for the longest time, these people had to coexist with each other, and they found a way until today. It's very, you know, a testament to well, as you said, it's not his hypocrisy.

It's distortion. So it's not necessarily Christian hypocrisy. It is really just the just the truth distortion. Maybe that's a better way to summarize.

Yeah. I mean, is why I mean, first first, just to clarify. When you're talking about the Mexicans and Latin Americans or whatever, they're Catholic. So Sure. With the rotary beads and so on, and you'll find you will find nuns in America.

Mhmm. You find Catholics in America. That's what I was.

Mhmm.

So I mean but but Catholicism is very different from every various version of Protestantism. Sure. But even Catholicism, as you said correctly, Catholicism as practiced in the global South is very different from Catholicism. It's just practiced in Europe.

Yeah. Did say that?

But, yeah. In terms of the the hypocrisy, this is this is why I say, I don't I I have a hard time using that term because, you're not I don't I don't see that they are in any way violating Christianity. They're violating the teachings of Jesus, but they're already doing that by being Christian. Mhmm. Mhmm.

So I don't see I like, I I have a hard time with people who say, for example, you know, like like people who advocate for for Christians to to become more serious in their religion. And then that will make the world a better place. And and, you know, we we we need Christians to to become more serious and return to their Christian values and so forth. They never left their Christian values. There's nothing that we're seeing today that's that's in any way a departure from Christian values.

Mhmm. Christian values have been a plague on the earth. And and you've by by the by the westerners, by the so called western civilization, I don't I don't deny, that you are living by Christian values. Even your atheism is a Christian value. So I don't I don't see any problem.

There's no there's no contradiction whatsoever in what you're doing. It's impossible for you to be hypocrites. It's impossible. You you are you you you are completely consistent, with being lost. Everything that you're doing is consistent with being lost.

Yes. That's heavy shit. I appreciate you taking the time.

Definitely.

Yeah. I know I've been busy for this one for a long time, but may Allah give you the very best, and definitely looking forward to the next