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Middle Nation Content Talks: Blame-shifting

Middle Nation · 22 Sep 2024 · 97:43 · YouTube

Okay. It's thirty five. So, inshallah, I will start playing the video and, you know, people will join along the way. So enjoy.

Yeah. You know, we had this guy in the in the chat last night, in the live chat, who came on talking about, you know, the normal thing saying, well, you know, the real problem is there's this certain group of people that now has a state and they didn't used to have a state, but it's this certain group of people that's always making trouble, you know, that's always causing a problem. And of course, knew immediately what he was trying to say, what he what group of people he's talking about, and he's talking about the Jews. It's the same old conspiracy theory that the that the West is always trying to make us believe in and that many of us do believe in. I was a little bit harsh with this particular man and immediately ejected him from the Chad because we wanna have an intelligent conversation.

And I'm not about to try to help you shift the blame for the actions of your own so called civilization Because, you know, either you don't know your own history, which is entirely possible, or you think that we don't know your history, or you don't want us to know your history. But we have to confront the truth, raw and unfiltered. The crimes that were committed by the West against the rest of the peoples of the earth are their crimes and no one else's. No one forced them. No one tricked them.

No one controlled them. And we won't allow you to blame shift and put all the responsibility for your actions at the feet of other people, at the feet of anyone else, not the Jews, not the nations, not the Illuminati, not the Rothschilds. No. You did what you did, and you do what you do. The pope who lost the crusades wasn't the Jewish pope.

Stop lying about yourselves, and stop lying about your history. You were responsible for the Transatlantic slave trade that ripped millions upon millions of people from their homes, from their families, from their cultures. And you invented the whole concept of white supremacy to try to justify your barbarity, classifying your fellow human beings as subhuman. It was westerners that raided that whole continent like savage beasts, chaining free people, packing them into ships like cattle, transporting them across the ocean to lives of unimaginable horror. Over 12,000,000 souls were uprooted.

Their lives were stolen. Their spirits were broken. To build the wealth of the very people who were dehumanizing them, that was you, not the Jews. Even though you retroactively try to pretend somehow that the Jews forced you to rape and pillage Africa, that they forced you and your founding fathers to force Africans to work your fields and build your economy. That was all against your will.

Right? Every degenerate plantation owner had a gun to his head, didn't he? Jews forced him to buy human beings and treat them like animals. You were tricked into it. Right?

It was I pack all along. And when the Berlin conference was convened in 1884 where European powers sat around a table and carved Africa up like a piece of meat, The Jews told you what to do. Right? The Congo was turned into a personal plantation for king Leopold of Belgium, where 10,000,000 Africans were worked to death, mutilated, and murdered for the sake of rubber and ivory. I guess poor king Leopold must have been hypnotized by the Jews.

Yes. And every single vicious commonizer who inflicted that savagery on the Congo, I guess they were all forced or tricked into it by all of those all powerful Jews who you were at the same time prosecuting in Europe. No. The French, the British, the Germans, the Portuguese, all of them imposed their will on Africa, draining its resources, enslaving its people, and crushing any resistance underfoot. But you want us to believe that you were only doing that because you were under some kind of a spell by the Jews.

And really, you're just kind hearted innocent do gooders if only those nefarious Jews would let you be. You must really think we're fools. The British Empire flooded China with opium, turning millions of people into addicts just to satisfy the British lust for profit. I guess that was all for the Jewish cabal, wasn't it? Those proper English gentlemen would never do such a thing.

When the Chinese resisted, the British responded with vicious force, waging the the opium wars to secure their right to poison an entire nation. I guess that was all under duress from the powerful Jewish rulers of the world, wasn't it? For over two centuries, those same British exploited India's wealth and turned that prosperous civilization into a land of famine and poverty. They massacred anyone who dared to rise up just like in Amritsar where British soldiers slaughtered hundreds of unarmed men, women, and children in cold blood. Winston Churchill starved tens of millions of Bengalis, but I guess that was all just to please his Jewish masters.

That's the way you tell it. You colonized The Philippines, first the Spanish and then the Americans. You murdered over 200,000 Filipinos in a brutal war of subjugation. But we've got the wrong guy. Yeah?

We've got the wrong guy. That couldn't have been you. That couldn't have been you, wonderful peace loving Anglo Saxon Christians. Right? No.

I guess the Jews were controlling you all the way back when you wrought havoc on the indigenous civilizations of the Aztecs and the Incas and the Mayans. That couldn't have been you. Those must have been Jewish conquistadors who brought death and destruction and wiped out entire cultures, enslaved the survivors, and imposed a brutal regime of exploitation that continues until this day. From Guatemala to Chile, from Nicaragua to Haiti, the people of Latin America, so called Latin America, have suffered under the weight of American imperialism, and their struggles for liberation are always met with bullets and bombs and death squads. But again, that wasn't you, was it?

You're as innocent as a baby. Right? I guess it was the Jews who landed on Plymouth Rock. Right? It couldn't possibly have been white European Christians who committed one of the most massive and longest genocides in human history against the native Americans.

That must have been Jews too, right? The systematic campaign of extermination must have been executed on the orders of the Jews. From the Eastern Seaboard to the plains of the Midwest, from the deserts of the Southwest, to the forests of the Pacific Northwest, the indigenous peoples of America were hunted like animals. Their lands were stolen. Their cultures erased.

The trail of tears, The wounded me massacre. The countless broken treaties, over 500 broken treaties, all bear witness to the genocidal intent of those invaders. But we've got the wrong guy. That's what you'd like us to believe. It wasn't you.

It wasn't white Europeans. And, apparently, the diabolical machinations of the Jews reached all the way down under, didn't it, all the way to Australia, where the aboriginal people who lived for sixty thousand years in harmony with their land. Well, they were declared as nonhuman by British colonizers and hunted down and killed like animals. Their children were ripped away from their arms in a policy that they called assimilation. They sought to erase their culture, erase their identity, and erase their very existence.

But I guess that was the Jews too, wasn't it? Just stop with this nonsense. We all know you. We know your history. We know it all too well because your history derailed our history, and it turned countless lives into a catastrophic nightmare.

I mean, how do you imagine that we can look in your eyes while you're assaulting us, and then you try to convince us that someone else is doing the beating? And, yes, like I said, bear in mind that all of these crimes you've committed and that you wanna blame the Jews for, all of these crimes were committed during a time when you were also simultaneously persecuting the Jews themselves in your countries. You wanna tell one group of your victims that another group of your victims is the one that victimized them, or you insult our intelligence. Your hatred of the Jews is exactly what has led to the whole problem that we have right now in The Middle East. That's all your fault, and it's all because of your hatred of the Jews.

Your persecution of the Jews led to Zionism, and that led you to support relocating all of the Jews out of Europe and sticking them in Palestine. Your holocaust against the Jews has been the fuel for the genocide that the Palestinians have suffered for the last one hundred years. And now you come to us like you're giving us sincere advice, like you wanna explain the source of our problems to us. And all you come with is the same anti Jewish conspiracy theories and hatred that started all of our problems in the first place. Why even now, Israel itself wouldn't have any power if it wasn't for you people.

And you're only supporting it now precisely for the same reason because you still hate the Jews now just like you did then. I'm telling you, you're sick. And you come to us with that same old sickness, and you try to tell us that it's a medicine. It's not America, it's IPAC. It's not The UK, it's the Jewish bankers.

It's not Europe, it's the Rothschilds. Oh, you must be out of your mind. You know that Jeff Bezos could eat the entire Rothschilds family for brunch, the Waltons, Elon Musk, Warren Buffett, they have more money in their couch cushions than the whole Rothschild's family possesses today. It's not 1917. Wallachia is just embarrassing.

It's embarrassing to see people using, literally using nineteenth and 20 and and twentieth century European anti Jewish propaganda in 2024. And they're saying it like they cracked the code. Your whole ideology is an antique. It's like you want me to stop using a smartphone because you just discovered two cuffs connected by a fishing wire, and you think it's an update. You'll do anything to avoid responsibility for your own actions.

You'll shift the blame to whoever you can. Like I said, it's IPAC. It's the Jewish lobby that's holding everyone hostage in congress. It's not Boeing. It's not Lockheed.

It's not Raytheon. It's not General Dynamics. You know? If it wasn't for those pesky Jews, you wouldn't dream of funneling hundreds of billions of dollars into the weapons sector, would you? No.

You'd never do that of your own volition. No. We're not stupid, and we have a memory. You've always been like this, and you've never changed. This is the only experience we have with you.

And look, we have a memory of the Jews too. Jews lived in the Muslim empire for centuries, and we never had an issue. Your psychotic hatred is the issue. Your psychotic hatred of the Jews, of us, of Africans, of Asians, of anyone and everyone who isn't you. And the truth is you even hate each other.

Your first colonizing experience was against the Irish, and they look just like you. Never mind the fact that you've actually been vicious to your own people in your own countries all along anyway even when they look like you and follow your same religion or your same beliefs if they aren't rich, if they aren't landowners, if they're serfs. Because, yes, it's not really even about Christianity. It's not really even about whiteness. The Irish were disqualified from being considered either one according to you at one time.

Even forget about religion. In fact, there's a direct correlation between your so called enlightenment and colonization. When you supposedly left the dark ages, you went on a mission to extinguish the lights everywhere else. From Africa to Asia, from Latin America to The Pacific, all the peoples of this world have suffered under the the yoke of western aggression. And this isn't just history.

This is our reality. This is our legacy, and this is our struggle. And it's a struggle that continues to this very day. And one of the reasons why this struggle continues is precisely because you continuously lie about this history. You lie about this reality.

You lie about this legacy. And you try to misrepresent and confuse the nature of this struggle by blame shifting and scapegoating and never ever just acknowledging what you have done and what you are doing even though everyone in the world knows.

Okay. Brothers and sisters who just joined, so let us start inshallah. So In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful, all praises due to Allah, word of the world. Peace and prayers inshallah be upon the noblest of the messengers, our master and our beloved prophet Muhammad, and upon his family, and his companions and those who follow them, inshallah, in goodness until the day of judgment. So welcome everybody to today's engaging session inshallah, which is basically titled in the same fashion as the video, which is the West blame shifting does not fool us.

Okay? So inshallah, in this discussion today, we, you know, we'll try to correct many historical narratives. Right? And we'll try, in Allah, to look at these different roots of these characteristics of the Austrian civilization. Right?

We'll essentially try to reveal, you know, what this consistent pattern of blame shifting tells us. Right? It mirrors something about the society. Right? So inshallah, we'll travel and try to cover all of this.

And, you know, there is also behind it, right, there in this, like, materialism and sense of entitlement, right, that actually shaped the civilization. Right? And, you know, it often refuses to acknowledge its own failings and atrocities elsewhere and even in their own country. Alright? So, you know, in the video we just heard and to everybody who joins, maybe hasn't watched the video, I'll just try to quickly you know, brother Shahid essentially ridicules this notion, right, that, you know, the Jewish people are behind every evil in the world.

Right? And especially those evils that were actually, you know, quote, unquote, perpetrated by white Christians. Right? Of course, brother then explained that it's not even about color. It's not about, you know, religion.

But mostly, the crimes that were done by these people were blamed upon the Jews. You know? And this kind of antisemitism, which, you know, brother Shahid has mentioned many times, right, in different videos, is somehow deeply ingrained, right, in the roots of this Western civilization. Yeah. They've always, you know, found ways to blame them for anything.

Right? Even when there was some famine or some sickness. Right? It was the Jews. Right?

And this is not just about the Jews. Right? They're always the West's found escape goat for, you know, every societal issue that they have suffered and even are suffering. Right? So for example, today, it's the minorities.

Right? It's the black communities. It's, you know, the Hispanics. It's whatever. Right?

But, you know, is this somehow justified, or does it even reflect reality? And, of course, the answer, you know, presented by our brother is that no. Right? And he illustrated this absurdity of the Western excuses, right, when it comes to their own accountability. Okay?

And, of course, brother Shahid, you know, mentions different historical instances, right, of this germination and exploitation that was essentially blame shifted. Or, like, it wasn't even blame shifted. Right? But he was just trying to present this point where we know what you did. Right?

And, you know, no matter what you say, we know who you are. Right? We know who we are dealing with. So it's just, you know, this facade of, like, trying to blame someone else. It's really, you know, kind of crazy.

So without further ado and trying to think over here, let us start, you know, try to connect all of these dots and, you know, try to somehow uncover this manipulation and deepen our understanding, InshaAllah. So it begins, right, by, you know, essentially, brother Shahid sets the stage, right, on you know, based on some interaction in the live chat. But it is a view, you know, held by many people, and we even fall for it nowadays, right, which is essentially the there's this specific group, right, that influences all global affairs. Right? And we know who we are talking about.

And, basically, what brother Jared tries to convey is that this is just like some diversion technique, right, used to essentially misrepresent facts. Yeah. So, you know, I would maybe just try because since we are talking about this antisemitism, you know, I would maybe like to ask my speakers if, like, why do you think that it was especially, you know, the Jewish community that was designed, like, that had this role of being the scapegoat for, you know, whatever societal or economic problems. Like, why was it specific with them? Right?

What did they do? Like, why has Europe historically been so antisemitic? Right? So, you know, do you like, the anything comes to mind, historical or cultural or even religious, right, in the western civilization that has contributed to this specific targeted blame against the Jewish community?

In my opinion, the the the reason that Jews have been targeted and scapegoated is it has its own evolution over the history of Europe. I think that it started because Christianity itself when it spread in Europe, it it was already a very corrupted version of Christianity that had lost completely. Had completely lost the really any true monotheism in its belief and in its practice. And this in and of itself is contradictory to Judaism. Judaism is a strictly monotheistic religion.

Or anyway, by that time it had become really strictly monotheistic. I mean, there's a there's a long complicated history with their flirtation with shirk and polytheism, but we don't need to get into that. There's a, there's a, a, stark contrast between the idea of the trinity and the idea of the son of God and saints and mother Mary and so forth. And all of the intermediaries that exist in Christianity between the worshipper and God. And of course the entire legal framework of Judaism.

Christianity completely threw away the laws, and basically threw away monotheism. And I think that this it was an initial reason for the friction between the the Judaic community and and Christianity. I mean Christianity of course itself developed as a sect among Jews and and heretical sect that became a, you know, even a blasphemous sect regarded that way by the Jews. And then as I say, as it spread through Europe, it just incorporated pagan practices in order to spread through Europe. And I think that this this created the initial conflict.

And then I think the religious aspect of the animosity between Christians and Jews, Europeans and Jews, they use the the religious pretext for the animosity, whereby Jews were regarded as so called Christ killers. That they were responsible for the killing of the son of God or of God himself, and they were, you know, regarded in this way, and this was used against them. But I don't think by that by the time that was really being used, I don't believe that that was the real reason. I think that was just trying to give a a kind of a religious pretext for the animosity. I think by then the animosity more had to do with the fact that the Jews were what's referred to as a middle man minority in Europe, and that they they sort of occupied an intermediary position in in economies in Europe as such as traders and as merchants, you know, money lenders and so on.

And they tended to prosper financially by facilitating trade between producers and consumers in societies where others were maybe less involved in commerce. They were middlemen. And this their financial success often provoked resentment from the broader population, especially during times of economic hardship with Europe saw quite a bit of that. So these types of communities, and the Jews aren't the only ones who who have occupied that time, that kind of a position as middlemen, so called middlemen minorities. But they're they're viewed as outsiders who disproportionately have a control over wealth and resources, leading to envy and hostility among other, you know, the broader community.

Their economic success, which is undeniable, was was compounded or the or the animosity was compounded because of, the combination of their economic success and their cultural distinctiveness that made them different from the rest of the community, rest of the society. And it was easy to scapegoat them and to discriminate again against them and to be violent towards them. In the case of Jews, I think they also their historical role as bankers, which is actually by the way a position that they got into precisely because of discriminatory practices in Europe and so called anti Semitic practices in Europe, And and became, know, bankers as I say, and merchants and so on. And this was then again combined with the religious and ethnic differences between them and the rest of the Europeans. And this just made it very easy.

They made it made them very easy targets for prosecution. And and the same type of thing, this is why I say it's important to note that they're not the only people in the world who have occupied that kind of a position as a middleman. And that they've they've found that their their that was their best opportunity for prosperity was to act as middleman. The same thing has happened in other or or or has been done by other communities around the world such as the Chinese in Southeast Asia, in places like Indonesia, and Vietnam, and Malaysia, and so on. Indians in places like Uganda, and East Africa generally, even the Lebanese to a certain extent in West Africa.

So and and they are and and they also have faced considerable hostility in those parts of the world. There's there's has historically been a great deal of hostility towards the Chinese in places like Indonesia, where there's even been violence against them. Places like Vietnam and so on. And of course, we know what happened with the Asian community, the Indians and so on. What happened with them in Uganda under Idi Amin.

So there's there's a there's generally speaking, this phenomenon of hostility towards any group of people who is a minority who act as middlemen, and they generally become middlemen because as a minority, those are the, that's the only opportunity that they can find for financial prosperity. And yet even once they find that prosperity, then they get punished for being prosperous in that particular, activity because it's regarded as parasitic. Because they're not creating, they're not manufacturing, and so forth. They're just facilitating between the producers and the consumers, which seems like a superfluous role that they have sort of created for themselves, which may be, may well be the case. But nevertheless, it's it's the way that they have found for success, and it can tend to, cause resentment and, hostility against them.

Because as I say, they're, regarded as that that role, that middleman role can be regarded as parasitic even though it actually does lubricate the movement of goods throughout the economy.

Brother. Yeah. Exactly. Like, I really probably have nothing to add. But, like exactly.

Like, as you know, mentioned right there, we're different minorities and different groups. I it's not only related to the Jews. So maybe I wanted to ask because, know, brother Adi is from I think he's from Europe. Right? And now there are these exactly, like, trying to, again, put the blame on immigrants.

Right? Put the blame on, you know, foreigners, right, somehow. So do you have any ideas, Ali, that you would might share with us? Like, how now it's taking shape this, you know, again, trying to find the scapegoat and blame shift on someone else?

Yeah. Well, the video by brother Shahid was a was a masterclass on how to use sarcasm properly to drive a strong point. But I'd like to actually show better or not better, more precise examples of of the blame shifting since the beginning of of The US. I am I am from The US, although originally from Syria. So I have a little more view on The US tactics.

And it began from the very inception of The US, from the very genocide of the native population. The way they were depicted to everyone was that they were savages, that they were to be subjugated, that they need to be subjugated. They were viewed viewed as subhuman and that a superior race has appeared to show them how they're meant to live. And in return, all that race asked for was their entire continent. As a matter of fact, Winston Churchill himself was quoted to say, I do not admit for an instant that a great wrong has been done to the red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.

I don't admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race and a higher grade race, a more world, wise race, to put, to put it that way, has come in and take their place. Even cartoons like Bugs Bunny normalized that they are just savages. So they genuinely victim blamed in this situation. Or whether the slavery in Africa. They blame the continent of Africa itself for the entire idea of slavery as if the Africans taught them how to lynch and how to hang from trees or how to breed mandignos and fight them to the death.

Even recently, when Kamala Harris visited Ghana, she had the audacity to speak on the so called atrocity of their history of slave trading, never mind the fact that if not for the demand of a market, this wouldn't have been the case. Or the communist, the baby eating monsters bent on world domination. From depicting Captain America as the commie killer to every headline saying the reds want you all dead. America engineered coups all across the world under the guise of communism as if the reds forced them to topple the Syrian government, not their desire for a trans Arabian pipeline to pump Saudi oil across the region. It was those darn commies that forced The US to overthrow Musabdak in Iran to install the shah.

It had nothing to do with the fact that Musabdak was nationalizing Iranian oil and trying to better life for his people. It was communism. Or the Guatemalan president, Jacobo Arbenz, who was trying to nationalize the fruit industry against the United Fruit Company. America's private interest couldn't have been the reason to tell for his government. It was the communist.

And, of course, let's not forget how the communist forced America to rain napalm all across Vietnam in one of the most disgusting and indiscriminate war campaigns you've ever seen. Communism was just so evil that poor America had to just go out and fight it all across the world. The fact that its private interests somehow always managed to be the end result was just a happy accident. America's entire policy, domestically and internationally, starts with assigning blame to the victim, not just America, the West, then feeding that blame until it turns into bloodlust, then quenching that bloodlust with the most atrocious atrocious actions without any responsibility. America's basically like that rapist that will tell you his victim was dressed in a way that was just simply asking for it.

But I'll stop there. And if you want me to touch on on the immigration in Europe, I can come back to that, but I'll

give you a chance to speak, brother. No. Thank you very much. You I think you covered every point, brother Shaykh. You know, in the video where I see, like, mentions exactly this partitioning of Africa.

Right? You know? Exactly. And, again, in the sarcastic manner. Right?

Yeah. Of course, it was, you know, this cabal, right, behind you, the puppet masters. Right? You know, pulling the strings of your brutal conquest, right, of even, like, Latin America. Right?

The Aztecs, the Incas, you know, in The Philippines. Right? Like, everywhere. Right? Always, it must have been someone else.

Right? And, you know, I think that brother Shahid, like, greatly underscores this in like, the importance of recognizing, right, that the European powers, they acted independently. Right? And it was, you know, with full agency. Right?

And it was just in their what was like, imperialistic endeavors. Right? So, you know, I think we need to get a big, you know, step back, right, just to understand, like, you know, this blame shifting is just a way to somehow justify these atrocities. Right? Like, they they try to divert the attention onto someone else.

Right? Even, like, the opium wars, you know, robbing India of its wealth. Right? So, essentially, you know, we can see that in between all of these aspects and you mentioned, right, the Iranian oil. Right?

Like, always, it's something materialistic right behind it. Like, it's always that they're trying to get something from you and, you know, then they blame you for atrocity so that it's able to so they are able to justify stealing from you, basically, right, or doing whatever terrible stuff they did to everyone around the world. Right? So maybe I would just, like, try to ask a bit, like, if we can link it somehow. Like, in my opinion, I see a connection, but I would ask, you know, our speakers if they see this connection as well.

Or I think it has been, you know, emphasized by brother Shahid in many different videos. But, essentially, how has this materialism, right, and this western world view, which I will get inshallah, you know, in a bit also, like, contributed to this blame shifting tendency? Right? Like, what is this psychological background kinda, right, that allows them to justify this blame shifting? Right?

It also, of course, is connected to how they view, you know, humans. Right? You know, like, that we are just merely from animals. Right? We are, you know, basically animals with a brain.

Right? Again, I I think that this view of humans is very easy to then normalize, right, this material superiority over someone else and, you know, blame them for it. Like, it doesn't matter. These are not humans. They are animals.

Right? We see it time and time again. Right? This rhetoric. Yeah.

So how do you think that this materialism and this blame shifting are linked?

Well, I mean, to be honest, you you see this you see this coming in different forms throughout so many, so many areas and so many, so many sectors of the society. So many layers of the so called civilization. I mean, in this in this instance, and what I was talking about here in in that video is blame shifting. But it's another form of blame of blame shifting or or just deviousness in generally advertising and marketing. If you just look at at at how consumerism is really driven, it's driven by trying to inculcate in the consumer a sense of inadequacy of himself or herself.

That the person himself or herself, isn't doesn't have value and doesn't have worth, and can only have worth and value if they buy my product. This is just another form, a a more subtle and nuanced form of the same phenomenon of of blame shifting in a way that you're trying to, for material gain, for material benefit, for yourself, for profit, trying to impose a a kind of unworthiness on the one who you want to get their money from. The one who you want to profit from. You need to trick them in some way. So it's a it's a it's a similar, but adapted form of the, of the same thing.

Now with regards to the actual blame shifting, well, obviously you can't take the blame because then you'd have to stop. You'd have to stop what you're doing. That's accountability. That's self accountability. If you'd if you actually take the blame for what you yourself are doing and take responsibility for what you yourself are doing, well, you can't continue doing it anymore.

So you need to find someone to shift the blame to, otherwise you're going to get, identified as the culprit. You will self identify as the culprit, and then you can't you have to stop your crimes. And if you have no intention whatsoever of stopping your crimes, and you have every intention of continuing your crimes, then the only thing you can do is try to shift the blame to somebody else. I mean, it's a it's just a very basic logical maneuver, a very basic and logical strategy to try to place the blame on somebody else so that you can continue committing the crimes. I think it's it's fairly straightforward.

Yeah. It is. Especially even, like, related to it again, this aspect of, like, dehumanization. Right? Making them seem like it's, you know, not just about shifting the responsibility, but even, like, how you then portray them.

Right? Because, you know, otherwise, you wouldn't be able probably to shift this accountability onto them. Right?

Exact exactly. And and this is this is exactly what what drove colonization all along. It's the it's it's in in fact, it's exactly the same principle as is now used in consumerism, as is now used in marketing and advertising. It's exactly the same, strategy, where they're telling now, consumers on mass that you're not worthwhile, you're not you don't have value, enough, you're inadequate unless you buy my products. That's just a, a a capitalism version of the so called white man's burden of these are all savages and we have to go there to civilize you.

In other words, we're saying that your entire culture, your entire, so called race, your entire nation is uncivilized, is savage, is backwards, is primitive, and you need us to make you better. That's exactly the same mindset, the same mentality that's employed in all consumer marketing. It's the it's the same idea. Just to try to divert and and misdirect attention away from what's actually going on here, which is that I'm trying to sell you worthless goods that you don't need because your money has worth and your your wealth has value. And I want that value that you have, so I have to make you think that you don't have any value and you need my worthless goods to give you worth so that I can have the money that you have that actually has a value.

It's very tricky.

It is. And especially, I like, I feel, you know, the effect is, in two directions. Right? One is to the, you know, the others, right, who are not, you know, the victims of this thing, right, that essentially they are in consensus on your side. Right?

But then even, like, to the targets that you are essentially, you know, the the the victims of your, you know, heinous acts suddenly feel, like, inferior, right, to with respects to, you know, essentially, this inferiority complex, right, comes to set in. Right? So, you know, it's crazy as you mentioned. And, again, it's in the same in consumerism. Right?

Like, give you this inferiority feeling that you essentially need this, and, you know, we are here to give it to you. SubhanAllah. Maybe Yeah.

And and again yes.

And and again, you see it you see it time and time again in various forms. Just like now, if if you look at if you look at Gaza, for example, we we bombed this hospital because it's a a hub of terrorist activity. It's a it's a terrorist headquarters buried under the underneath Shifa Hospital. That's why we did it. You have to you have to, impose some kind of, farfetched guilt and and, menace against your victims so that you can justify victimizing them.

And exactly the same thing goes every single time a police officer, shoots an unarmed person from a so called minority group or even just any average citizen who gets shot by the police in America, an extrajudicial killing by the police, what do they always say? Well, we thought he was armed. We thought he had a weapon. We thought he was a menace, although he wasn't a menace. But he but he must by definition be a menace because we killed him.

That's what determines whether or not you're a menace is whether or not they'd have decided to victimize you. Because you can only be, the the the only way that you can be a victim, of the the power structure is if you're a menace. By definition, whether you are a menace or not.

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the your status as a menace is determined by the fact that they victimized you. It's the same thing. It's a again, they just it just plays out over and over and over again in various forms.

Yeah. So, there was a point I wanted to add to what, brother Shahid and Ali and Karim were saying is that, not only is that, apparent in in their, acquisition of wealth of the of the conquered peoples or the colonized peoples, but they it also it was extended to to arts. So for example, European museums are renowned for having stolen arts from the world over. Right? And when they were asked back then, in the nineteenth and '18 in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, they would say, we took it.

It is a symbol of our power, and we will keep it because we are able to cherish this civilization, your civilization, you colonized peoples, better than you because we simply took it from you. Right? So you you can't preserve them well because we took it from you. We stole them from you, and so you don't deserve to have them. So we will keep it at our side.

And when colonization was over and the the the arts the artifacts were still in the museums, and there were calls for, like, we have to return stolen art because colonization was not only colonization of land. Colonization was also colonization of a heritage. You know, we they didn't only steal resources. They only they also stole history, culture, arts. And so, again, the the the museum the the the administrators of the museums all over Europe said, we can't send them back because we don't know how they will treat their goods.

We don't know how how they will treat their heritage, their culture. They're not fit enough to to to to preserve them. Again, it's it's it's it's blame shifting because we won't give it back to you because you simply can't have it. You have it. You can't you you simply can't preserve it.

We are able to better preserve it than you ever will. So it's it's it's it's more like a way of life. It's not just con concerning, you know, money and no. No. Everything.

Everything is blame shifted.

And now domestically, I mean, with with America's the larger the largest importer of of opiates to make their drugs, and and they have turned Mexico into their own personal form. Well, a lot of Latin America. And and Mexico is now under the the mercy of these, drug cartels. While everybody is flooding into America, hoping to get away from from the iron fist that the drug cartels are running this country, America is sitting there and calling these people the Mexicans are sending us their worst, calling them criminals, once again, making them subhuman. They created the condition that they're living in, and and they have turned them into subhuman people that need to be ejected, labeling them as illegal, as if you are illegal as a human being.

And and none of them. It's now becoming the biggest talking point in American politics despite inflation, despite the war and all the wars happening around the world. The biggest talking point is illegal immigrants, which were a result of America's need for all these opioids. And once again, at the opioids internally. America is either the only country or one of not many, I'm sure, that direct that have direct to consumer advertising for pharmaceuticals.

Every American from when they're a little kid, they're seeing these commercials about drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, and they have the highest opioid crisis and the highest addiction crisis. I don't think that's a coincidence.

Yeah. That's probably not right. Thank you, brother Ali. Thank you, brother Omar. Yeah.

Brother Shaykh, do wanna add something?

I was just I was just gonna say it's it's one of the most, it it it's amazing that this that that phrase can be said unironically, about, Latin America saying they're not sending us their best. When did the West ever send their best into the global South? They sent their murderers, and their rapists, and their pillagers, and their oppressors, and their tyrants, and their pirates. That's all they ever sent to the global South. And now when you get a little bit of the same, just a little bit, just a small minority, a small percentage of the people who are trying to escape from the pillage and the crime that you created and the poverty and the deprivation that you created in the global South, when they're trying to escape and jump some small percentage of those people, commit crimes in your country, you say that they're not sending their best.

Well, why should they send their best to you? You never sent your best to us.

Yeah. Exactly. It's really, like, eye striking. Right? You know?

Like, I I don't get it. Right? And, of course, like, it needs some, you know, decolonization to be able to see it. But once, you know, a person, inshallah crosses a bit the other side. You know, it's just example after example.

Right? Just the reality keeps on hitting. I mean, you

you don't you don't throw a boomerang out and get a Frisbee back.

Yeah. I don't know who's the boomerang and who's the Frisbee. I understand it, of course, since I love this analogy. So maybe, you know, I will try I would like to somehow shift it a bit to our Islamic perspective. Right?

So, you know, I think that we have to view this from, you know, from this point of view. Right? And, essentially, like, when, you know, we hear about this blame shifting, I it it reminded me, essentially, like, on this, you know, day of judgment, right, where essentially the disbelievers will keep on trying to blame each other for their sins, right, for their misguidance. He's the one who misguided me. He's the you know?

And I feel that, essentially, exactly, this is, like, this behavior present even in today. Right? But I feel that this is essentially, you know, the key of the behavior of Ibris or Shaytan. Right? Like, you know, cannot be possibly me who is wrong.

Right? It always has to be someone else. Right? And I also think that, like, you know, Allah assures us of this, you know, accountability that will be done. Right?

Like, you know, even if it's not in this dunya, I'm sorry. Right? This is part of the dunya. It doesn't always have to end, you know, justly, but there will come a time where, inshallah, you know, every soul will be held accountable for its actions. Right?

So, you know, we have this idea of justice. We know about justice. Right? We try to fight for it, and we can see that this, you know, blame shifting is just a way to justify again the materialistic right and imperialistic pursuits of the West. Right?

So and we try to even uncover the at the heart of it is this materialism. Right? Like, you know, this excessive love for the dunya, right, for this worldly life. Right? The essentially, even in consumerism, this is the key point that they target.

Right? Like, even in advertisements. Right? It's all about, you know, materialistic like, love for materialistic stuff. Right?

And, again, you know, like, I don't know. I just feel like that we understand, right, and even from the Quranic decolonization series and so on that we you know, I don't think that we can overlook the fact that this civilization is a civilization that is built upon, right, the whispers of Satan. Like, you know, whenever we try to uncover the root cause of these, like, exactly wide blind shifting, climate realism, you know, why do they have this worldview, we essentially have to go back to Ibris. Right? Like, you know, it's hard to view it from a different perspective.

Right? Because, you know, as brother Sheikh mentioned again multiple times, right, this society is built upon it. So where, you know, where else to find the way of thinking of Ibris other than, you know, from the Quran? Right? So exactly like this reductionist view of human beings.

Right? This, you know, trying to throw the blame on someone else, trying to just to gain access to material wealth. Right? It's all I feel personally that it's reflective of, you know, satanic mentality. But, of course, if anybody wants to, you know, give a different view or maybe add to this point, I'll be very happy to hear you out.

Don't wanna leave you hanging, brother Karim, but you

said it perfectly. Okay. So maybe I'll ask it a bit different way. Like, you know, which manifestations of Ibris' description in the Quran do you see essentially manifested in how the West approaches the world?

Again, you know, not not to, you know, risk repeating myself too much. I've talked about it many times, as you, as you mentioned. Iblis sees human beings as very low creation. He sees them as nothing but material things. And he doesn't he he doesn't understand even the the soul that human beings have.

So he denies human dignity, human honor, human nobility, and he wants he wants to make sure that human beings live down to his expectations. And I think that it's important to Iblis, I think that his whole battle is basically to try to prove that he was right to refuse making sajdah to Nabi Adam Alaihi Salaam. And that's that's been his whole battle from that time until now and until the last day. He he wants to prove that human beings are not worthy of the honor that Allah gave to Nabi Adam and to Bani Adam. And so he is obsessed with trying to make us ignoble, with trying to make us dishonorable, with trying to make us immoral, with trying to make us violent and savage and animalistic.

And I think probably the most blatant manifestation of this in the West is their adoption of the, this so called theory of evolution. Because when you when you view human beings as nothing more than just animals, as just, you know, part of of of the evolutionary scheme, what you're doing is stripping away the dignity of humanity. And, and then if you are someone who believes in that, then you can easily strip away the dignity and the humanity of the people that you want to exploit. See, when you, when you reduce a man to nothing more than, an animal, it's a lot easier to justify treating him like an animal. It becomes a lot easier to justify stepping on him, beating him down, keeping him in chains, because in their minds he's just another piece of property.

Just another, you know, just like cattle, just livestock, just something to be used and abused. This idea, the the so called evolutionary belief, in my opinion is used to excuse the worst kinds of oppression and exploitation and always has been. They say it's the survival of the fittest, And that gives them the moral green light to exploit, to enslave, and murder whole populations, for the sake of maintaining their material superiority. It's the same logic that allowed them to colonize Africa, enslave African people, wipe out native Americans, dominate the whole global South. They reduced people, the the the people who they oppress to a lower status as a creation, as a as a being.

And then turn around and justify their cruelty, which is their own savagery by claiming that it's all part of the natural order. By claiming that their savagery, just like just like the brother was saying about the artwork. Saying that they couldn't, they can't take care of their own things because we know that they can't take care of their own things because they, they allowed us to steal them. So you become eligible prey if you can be preyed upon. So this this makes you weaker and lower if you're not as savage as they are.

If you're if your instinct isn't to be as savage as they are, if you're more civil and more decent and more humane, then that makes you savage. Because you can't be as savage as the savages who are exploiting you and, oppressing you, you know. So this is, I think the most the most, blatant, manifestation of their, listening to the of Shaitan and his absolute, contempt for the human race.

Yeah. Brother. Like exactly. I you know, I know that you have spoken about it a lot, but I think repetition in this aspect is really necessary. Right?

Because, you know, we need to see what's behind it. Right? Like, okay. We see, you know, how they act. We see what they do.

We see all of these violation of human rights, you know, the shifting of words. All of these, you know, malicious activities, I would say, manipulating and trying to subjugate and oppression and hatred and all of these negative characteristics, right, they have some source. Right? You know? Because we believe that humans are inherently good.

Right? We know that we are born upon the fitra, the, you know, pure state. We are we do not believe that we hold the sense of previous, you know, people and so on. So that's why I think we need to see the source behind this evilness, right, behind this negativity. So I'm sorry if I, you know, led you to repeat yourself and you didn't want to, but it's just, you know, for the sake of our listeners, I feel that we need to get this point, inshallah, across, you know, the brother Ali.

Yeah. I'm the the what what Shaytan does is covered. I'm I'm gonna go since I live in Sweden, which is I think Sweden is the most atheist country in the world. I'm gonna talk about what the lack of Allah in a society can do. I mean, we believe as as Muslims that that shaitan pricks our heart the moment we are born.

It is said that's why we cry when we come out of the womb. And we're each given a qareen, a demonic companion that will constantly speak to us and tell us to to stray off the the right path. And the only way the only way to combat that is Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. This is why you always hear us saying that to elevate the West, you know, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has to come to that nation, you know, some spirituality so they can fight the evil of shaitan.

Thank you, brother Ali sister Wahida. Nice to see you here with us.

You've been discussing you and brother Shahid have been discussing these problems on more of a macro level. I wanted to ask, because people actually experience the injustice on a daily basis, in their lives. We have a criminal justice system and a society here in The United States, which is blatantly unjust. When things happen, negative things, criminal things to people here, they have a difficult time extracting any form of justice for themselves or their relatives because of the immorality and corruption in the system. I wanted to know if brother Shahid or you rarely or anyone has a suggestion for individual people who may experience great injustice in their personal lives, how one ought to deal with that because, you know, one is not going to receive justice from the establishment, and it is very detrimental to individuals and to families and to neighborhoods and to the society in general to do nothing which helps to enforce a just result from an unjust situation that has been heaped upon one.

And I I just wanted to get some ideas because I'm actually facing a situation like that, and I am a a person who is able to utilize the assistance of other people to extract some justice, but that's not always the way to go. And so I I just wanted to, get some ideas. Thank you.

It's very good to hear hear from you, sister Sheikha. I wish that I could could offer individual advice for an individual situation, but it's it's quite difficult to do for more than one reason. One reason of course being that one would need to know the the details of the situation to help try to explore what options might be available. But as you said, the problem is that the entire system in The United States is set up to prevent justice for the designated victims in the society of injustice. The whole system is set up that way.

So it's very difficult to to imagine a scenario in which you can get justice through that system in any reliable way. As you know, we are campaigning for the invocation of Article six against The United States to get them expelled from the United Nations. So that American citizens who do suffer systematic injustice in The United States and what are systematic violations of international law, could potentially have the option, to raise their cases and raise their, grievances, to the international bodies that are charged with the enforcement of international law. Because quite simply, I can't, I can't think of any generally effective and reliable approach for any individual in that society to extract justice from the system, by means of the system. The system itself, has to be brought to justice by, the international bodies who are mandated for the enforcement of international law.

Thank you, brother Shaheed. I have reached the conclusion at this point in my life, having personally witnessed on several occasions through the decades, the corruption and the lack of justice, I truly have come to believe that the evil that The United States has done globally has now traveled backward to us, and almost everything seems to be a case of the chickens coming home to roost. It isn't that we necessarily have bad laws. We have human beings in positions of authority who will not follow the law even if you put a written version of it in front of them. And it's it's the most extreme I've ever seen it, frankly.

I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you on on on both of your points. One that the that the evil that The United States has spread out through the world is coming back to them now as it inevitably always would have. And also that the, again, that the system itself being as it is staffed by people that people who are themselves following the was was of Shaitan and who who were brought up in a in a society that was built upon or was developed by means of the was was of Shaitan.

That it's it's a it's it's quite an intractable problem that it seems that the only thing that can happen for anything to change is accountability that would that would cause a drastic change in the society. I I can't really see any other any other way for that to happen, except that the consequences have to have to be visited upon The United States for everything that they've done. And and once the consequences are visited upon them, there's a chance that there could be some level of rehabilitation and enlightenment, but I don't know how it could happen otherwise because generally speaking behavior doesn't change where there's no accountability. Behavior never changes as long as impunity is allowed to persist. That once the impunity is gone and accountability can be imposed, then there might be some change.

There's any good in the, in the person or any good in the so called civilization, then it's possible that it could be rehabilitated. Otherwise, it's very difficult to imagine a scenario in which they can self correct without having actually suffered any consequences for their actions.

Yeah. Just when brother Shahid said that everything is coming back, America's having to face all this now. If if you look at America's history from its perspective, you know, with the victim blaming, we started you know, all the way in Europe, we started from the Jews and went to the natives and then calling Africans animals and then blaming the communists. If you look at the history from their point of view, it it seems as though they've spent their entire existence, you know, fighting monsters and trying to benefit the world and impose their morality. And and if you look at at how the American society operates now, they're all in this competition to be the ultimate victim.

You know? I'm not trying to belittle mental health, but everyone competes there as to who's more depressed or whose life is more difficult. And and that has been normalized intensely that I think America's next step when it comes to blame shifting is is gonna depend on that. Because I've seen I've noticed this expanding genre of of entertainment where they are retelling the stories of villains and making them protagonists, whether it's Maleficent or fictional characters or whether it's even Jeffrey Dahmer. They made a series where they made them something that you can try and relate to.

Even my children watching a minions cartoon, and I realized that that it's a story about a child who had a little bit of tough upbringing. So he started looking up to villains, and he took the biggest villain as his mentor trying to become the next bad villain. And, of course, I turned the TV off. I'm like, what is this garbage that the children are watching? But you know how entertainment is always used to manipulate the minds of the masses?

I believe this is America's next step. They're running out of people to blame. They're running out of out of people to point their finger at. So now it's gonna be like, we have been so traumatized by our entire history of fighting all these monsters, and they're gonna use the Nietzsche logic. When you fight monsters for too long, you become a monster yourself.

As if the whole government or the whole country has just been through so much so much trauma that they're just villains due to their circumstances, not because they mean to be. And now they can be sympathetic villains rather than villains who should face the consequence. And and by the way, really watch what you pay attention to what your children watch. It's very manipulative.

Well, know, I think that's an interesting point. Popular media, it can it can both be and it can simultaneously be a kind of, indoctrination as well as a reflection of the mood in the society. And I think that what you're talking about, it's it's it's kind of it's rather remarkable. And it has been coming for a while actually. I mean, you started to see so called anti heroes becoming popular like in the seventies.

And then it kind of ebbed a little bit in the eighties under Reagan, you had the you it sort of went back to the to the to the type of very simplistic black and white hero who doesn't question himself at all. And then it it it reemerged again in the nineties and in the February, and and we've seen it now of course with like the Joker and and all of these types of movies where where the heroes are either the hero is is either directly a villain or the hero is kind of morally ambiguous and conflicted and and complex and so on. And I think to a certain extent that actually reflects the fact that the empire is in decline and they're aware that the consequences are coming back on them. And now as you say, it's a it's it's trying to maybe not shift the blame, but trying to evade the blame by making excuses for themselves. And it's also interesting because the the same goes with the rhetoric about themselves as a so called civilization or as as a country, America.

And that you see less when when America is criticized. Like for example, I can just look at my own comment section. By now, in my own comment section, I just see a repetition of maybe half a dozen arguments of people who get triggered by my criticism of The United States or my criticism of the West. They have a very limited menu, of responses, and they're they're they're really always the same, and it's very predictable what the responses will be. And it's interesting because you find very few people willing to say anymore, we are uniquely great as a civilization.

We're uniquely special. You can only find the people saying that are people like Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson and these types who are really trying to trying to revive a nostalgia among very desperate people to to to revive this image of the West that that no one believes anymore. But what you what you see now, rather than talking about how unique America is or how unique the West is, they're saying, well, everybody did what we did. Everybody did the crimes that we did. All all empires have been the same.

Everybody committed atrocities. Everybody, you know, was was exploitative. Everybody had slavery. Everybody was bad. There was barbarism all the time.

We weren't we you know, it's not special that we did that. The the whole rhetoric has changed. Rather than completely denying their crimes, they're trying to minimize their crimes by saying everybody did it. So this this this indicates that they're aware that they're in decline and that the consequences of their actions are coming down on their heads little by little, but more rapidly, than anyone could have predicted. And they are, coming face to face with the consequences of their actions.

And now they're because throughout their entire history, obviously, throughout their entire history, their their modus operandi has always been to avoid responsibility and to shift blame and to deny the their own atrocities and their own crimes or to have some kind of an alibi for it to put it on somebody else. So they've they've never had the instinct to take responsibility. They've never had the reflex to take responsibility or self accountability in any way. And so now as the consequences are actually coming down upon them, they're doing the same thing and saying, well, you know, it's it's complicated and actually everybody did what we did. So you can't really blame us.

You can't really hold us responsible for that because it's it's not unique in history. We everybody was the same way. That really reflects the decline in their own confidence about their so called civilization. While also it reflects their knee jerk reflex to try to evade responsibility for their actions.

Brother, both both brothers, brother Ali and brother Shaykh, I think these are great points. It just now when you were talking about, you know, this perception about themselves. Right? So I just came to my mind when, like, when say, in a video you mentioned, right, like, when they look at these pictures, right, where essentially their grandparents, you know, when by their side, there's this hanging black person or something. Right?

And they say, oh my god. You know, these were so terrible people, and they're essentially just repeating now, you know, in Raza and other places. Right? The like, even they blame shift, you know, like, historically on their ancestors. Right?

You know? So this was also a good point. Right? It's not just across, you know, space, but even across time. Like, yeah, you know, our parents were bad, but we don't do that anymore.

Right? So, you know, just give Yeah.

And this is something that that the current generation, what however old you are. I mean, the generation of people, Yani, who's actually alive right now on the earth, whatever age you are, it doesn't matter. If you are if you are among the people who do that and say, for example, you find you find so many people in the West saying, well, I didn't colonize. I didn't own slaves. I didn't kill the native Americans and so on and so on and so on.

Blame my ancestors. Okay. Well, you should consider the fact that your, descendants are going to be saying the same thing about you unless you do something, for example, about the genocide in Gaza. Because if you're not doing something to stop one of the most blatant, the most publicized, the most observed, the most reported, and the most detailed genocide that any of us has ever known about. If you're not doing something about that right now, then you can best believe that your children and your grandchildren, your and your great grandchildren are going to blame you for that, and they're going to try to evade responsibility for their own crimes and for the responsibility for the global situation that is created as a result of your complacency today.

And your you you the only thing that you're interested in is is trying to evade responsibility for the past crimes that were committed by your ancestors and not concerned about preventing the current crimes being committed by this current generation by you yourself and your own society and your own country and your own government, if you're not doing something to prevent that now, then you'd best believe that your future generations are gonna blame you the same way that you blame your grandparents and great grandparents.

Yeah. Exactly. And it just, again, ties to this. You know, I I just keep on seeing, you know, like, of course, we cannot see it, but, know, there's just this image on the day of judgment where everyone will be trying to get rid of the accusations of the other and blame it on the other right. And so, you know, these ancestors will say, no.

No. No. It was, you know, the people who came after us, and the people now are like, no. No. No.

That was our ancestors. Right? You know, essentially, again, it's just a manifestation of this you know, mentality. Again, you know, you led me astray. It wasn't me.

You know, all of this. It keeps on just repeating, you know, across time and across place. Yeah. Yeah. Just again, you know, like, even Satan, you know, was blaming Allah.

Right? He he is the reason why, you know, I'm astray or, like, come on. Really? Like, you know, Right? And you can see it even like, it seems ridiculous, right, when we hear it, like, yeah, was our ancestors, you know, who did the slave trade.

Yeah. Okay. So now you're paying corporations to do the slave trade. Right? Like, what is the difference?

You know? Like, it just seems ridiculous for people outside of it, but subhanAllah, you know.

Yeah. Honestly. I mean I mean, if you if you if you and you and you see this and people say this, how could they have, like in America, how could people possibly have tolerated and accepted slavery? And they think to themselves, if I had lived back in those days, I would have been an abolitionist and I would have done everything possible to free the African slaves in in The United States. Well, you have more slaves in the world today than there ever have been.

And you're profiting from it and you're benefiting from it. Your smartphone was made by means of slavery. All of your technology, in fact, was made by means of slavery. And you're not doing anything about it the same way that your ancestors didn't do anything about it because they profited it and they benefited from it. You're not any different than they were.

And like I said in in the video that you mentioned, you see those you see those those horrific, pictures of families on picnics with a with a a lynched body hanging above their heads, above their families, and above, above their children, and they're just sitting there eating sandwiches. And you think that that's just horrific and unimaginable. Meanwhile, you're sitting and eating a pizza watching CNN and and people being murdered in Gaza. What's the difference? You can't you can't talk about the previous generations as if you're any different than they are.

You're exactly the same. You never changed. You never changed as a so called civilization. You never changed as a so called culture. You're exactly the same today as you were then.

And if you don't change, then believe me, like I said, the future generations are going to disown you the same way that you disown your ancestors.

Sister Selma, please.

Yeah. I just wanted to get back to the point on blame shifting. Just wanted to highlight that, you know, in the rising, like for example, the rising emergence of China in many of these different countries, like Africa, for example, in their investment and in contributing to their infrastructure and their rising cost in their defense budget. The West likes to posit that, therefore, it's like they like to scamonger the world, the rest of the world, that there's some impending danger in that. I just want to remind everyone that China discovered gunpowder technology in the eleventh century, and they've been trading, navigating the world.

They did not use that technology to mete out violence in the countries that they've interacted with. The moment the West encountered this technology, the first thing they did was to develop dynamites and weapons to kill and pillage the rest of the world in their pursuit for colonizing and and, stamping their feet on everybody else with the use of weapons to exploit and pillage through colonization. And subsequently, after colonization, they still use the same mechanism to colonize the rest of the world, pretending like they have left all these colonized countries. And today, they're still doing that and pretending like if it's not under their purview, the rest of the world is also going to do the same thing that they did when, in fact, it's been demonstrated throughout through, you know, history that that's not been the case. The only time it's been so devastatingly violent in the world is because of their when weapon I mean, when this weapons technology went into their hands.

You know, that that's all. I mean, I hope I'm I'm clear about this point that I'm trying to raise here.

Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, when I when I was talking about how they they're they're trying to sort of shrug their shoulders now and throw their hands up in the air and say, well, we're we're not unique. And and all of the all of the various empires and countries and global powers always did the same things that we did.

No. Don't be modest now. You were you were right to to say how unique you were, except that you were just wrong about what you were unique about. You you like to tell people that you were unique and how virtuous and how wonderful you were, but no. You were very unique in how savage and how brutal and how violent you were.

You have always been unique in that. There hasn't been any empire in the history of the world that was as as uniquely violent, as uniquely brutal, as uniquely inhumane as you are. So you should don't be modest. You you absolutely have been a unique, so called civilization, in the history of the world.

SubhanAllah. I'm so happy for all of these inputs. Thank you very much because I feel it connects all these dots in my head, and I hope even in the heads of, you know, our listeners. So I would just maybe move on a bit, right, because there was this kind of interesting point, right, that, you know, this blend shifting, it hasn't only fueled, like, historic, you know, injustices, but even current. Right?

You know, current events, current situations. Right? It like, you know, you blame shift for something, but it has consequences on everyone else. Right? And, again, like, I think brother Shade in the video, right, he connected this essentially, anti Jewishness, right, and, you know, this anti Semitism in Europe, which was this point of, you know, blame shifting, and it gave rise essentially this the consequence, you know, is Zionism and, again, subsequent conflicts that all we, you know, hear about, right, in the region.

And, you know, like, essentially, these Western biases, right, and somehow their perception have been projected, right, onto other cultures and regions. Right? And it just perpetuates the cycle of violence and misunderstanding, you know, blame shifting and denying your own fault. Right? I feel as if it's just leading to widespread corruption, right, on earth.

We even fall into these traps. Right? Like, we start to blame the same entities that they blame. Exactly like brother Shahid pointed out, right, this, you know, you want us to believe the who is, you know, persecuting us at the the same victim, you know, like us. Right?

Like, what? Like, what is this, you know, mind games and mind tricks, right, that they are trying to pull on? So, like, I would maybe just try to ask our, you know, speakers, like, how is this projection of Western anti Semitism, right, contributed to the rights of Zionism, right, and essentially to the situation that we see now in Gaza. Right? Like and maybe even in other parts of the world, if there has been some similar situation where essentially a victim of your aggression led to, you know, consequences outside of kind of your you know?

Like, it wasn't direct by you. Right? It you essentially gave rise to something that then, you know, perpetuated these injustices. Right? So for example, just to put it in perspective of what I'm talking about, I mean, essentially, the this anti Zionism sorry, antisemitism gave rise to Zionism, gave rise to Israel, and essentially the injustices that we see being done in that part of the world.

Right? So I don't know. It's kinda crazy, subhanAllah, like, how this cycle or it's not even a cycle, but this, you know, steps that it goes, right, where essentially from European blame shifting, we ended up, you know, getting our brothers and sisters, like, inhumanely treated. Right? Like, I was just wondering about yeah.

So if anybody wants to Yeah. At this point.

Well, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I I think that it's it's it's not mysterious what led to the to the rise of Zionism and what what led to the or or what was the cause of the the initial or the original grievance on the part of European Jews and their their their decision that they needed a separate homeland, so called for themselves because they weren't safe anywhere else. That was their, that was their rationale. And it wasn't an irrational rationale given their centuries of persecution in Europe.

They the the as as everyone knows, the the original Zionists were not religious Jews, and they're not religious Jews until now. And they they were secular Jews, and they actually saw that the or or they believed that the answer to their problem was to not only, escape from Europe, but also, to try to mimic the behavior of their oppressors. To try to resemble their oppressors as much as possible because they felt, that by being, sort of, religious, you know, the Orthodox community and so on, There was a there was a huge rift in Europe between religious Jews and Zionists, historically, because the Zionists, thought that the religious Jews were weak, and that they weren't doing enough to protect themselves from persecution. So they blamed what you could argue was the more civilized behavior, of the religious Jews. They thought that that, civilized behavior made them weak.

So the Zionists from the beginning fully believed in violence and brutality, in in mimicry of those who were persecuting them in Europe. So you created this problem by your own I'm talking about the West. You created this problem by the way you treated those people in Europe. We never treated them that way and we never had any problem with them. We never, Jews were in the in the Muslim empire for centuries and we never had any issues with them.

And and they were acting as middlemen in our society as well. But we're reasonable people, and we're moral people, and we're religious people, and ethical people, and principled people. So we never had a problem with them. But because, you're obsessed with material things, with materialism, and you can't stand for anyone to do well in your society if it's not you, they don't look like you, and they don't believe the same things as you, and so forth, and you're just anyway a dog eat dog type of a civilization, so called civilization, you treated them like dogs, you treated them terribly. And when you when you mistreat an animal or you treat someone like an animal, well, they might start to start to act like one.

Just like when you abuse a dog, it becomes vicious. And this is just what happened with them. You turn them into vicious people. Now when I talk about, not blame shifting to the Jews, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that they're innocent.

I'm not saying that they haven't committed crimes, that they haven't committed, wrongs, but, they're simply participants in your system. That's all. They're just participants. So when you talk about, for example, that that, Jews have a role in the military industrial complex, well, yes, I don't deny that. I don't deny that they have a that they have a role in your neoliberal capitalist system.

They're opportunists, and they'll find a way to make money in that system. But they didn't create that system, and they don't run that system. They found a way to benefit from that system and to profit from that system. They were involved in the slave trade. Yes, they were.

But they didn't create the slave trade. They didn't force you to become slave traders. They didn't force you to to to enslave Africans and and and create, the the worst form of slavery that has ever been seen in human history. They didn't force you to do that. They just saw that you were doing it and well, we can make a buck.

We can make some profit off of it too. That's all. So I'm not saying that they're completely innocent, but when I'm talking about blame shifting, I'm talking about when you're trying to put all of your crimes on their head. No. You can't do that.

But, yes, obviously, the way that they treated the Jews in Europe is what gave rise to Zionism in the first place, which is what gave rise to the problems that we have now. If you had known how to treat them humanely from the beginning, we wouldn't have this problem today. It's very simple.

Brother Shahid, it's it's the most disgusting full circle I've ever seen. I mean, yeah, they persecuted the Jews for for centuries. And like you said, they beat them into into starting to just feeling this this monstrosity come out of them because they're so sick of a life. And then they use that to aim it as a gun to these other group that was that was being pesky and a thorn in their side. If America or the West didn't see any utility for the state of Israel in the Middle East, that state would have never happened.

It's the only reason it exists. It has utility. So they took the Jews that they persecuted and aimed them like a gun and planted them in the middle of Muslims and told them, here, take everything. And so they did. And what happens?

The Muslims fled to Europe running from all the perpetual wars wars that came after that. And now that they're in Europe, I would say, like, Scandinavia here. Scandinavia has worked for centuries to eliminate all remnants of God and religion. So when you look around here, the only religion you see is Islam because we're the only one left that are religious. And suddenly they say, oh, look at our country.

It's being taken over by this one religion. Oh, it's all we see. Well, your churches are ghost towns. On Sundays, You're the one that eliminated religion from your countries. The only reason the only thing you see is Islam is because the only thing is Islam.

And slowly but surely, they're talking about us trying to take over their country, us trying to take over their culture, And it took them eighty short years to go from Jewish animals to Muslim animals. Like I said, the most disgusting full circle you can ever see.

Wow. Yeah. Exactly. Again, this blame shifting crisis, essentially, you know, it's just as was speak spoken in the video, this crisis of consequences. Right?

Essentially, you're just, you know, getting your consequences right. You destroyed their countries, and now they're coming. And then you try to blame them. Like, hello. Like, what are you trying, right, but, know, that's why it's so important to try to see who's the main perpetrator.

Right? Where, you know, what is the source. Right? Always try to go beyond the narratives that are being presented. Right?

Try to see you know? And, like, what I would like, you know, just like, how do we view this then as you know, because we spoke a lot about Islam and Quranic perspective right then. You know, this is just the main purpose is, you know, to be just. Right? It's all about, you know, justice.

So as brother Shahid mentioned, we do not absolve people of crimes they actually committed. Right? But we are just trying to, you know, present facts for how they are. Right? You know?

And, like, who was included in the slave trade. Right? There were, you know, lots of entities. It wasn't just Jews. It wasn't just, you know, white Christians or something.

It doesn't depend, right, on, you know again, as most even mentioned in the video, like, religiosity is just, you know, some, you know, something that they can use as a justification. Again, let's blame it on religion. Let's blame it on, you know, what is at the source. Right? What is the main, you know, point where it starts?

Right? So this is why we try to address this stuff and try, you know, to just see through their diversion techniques. Alright? So I hope, inshallah, this has been you know, this has essentially, that is that this discussion resulted in this inshallah for, you know, our listeners. SubhanAllah, like yeah.

I I don't I'm not sure if I have anything to add, to be honest. Just to highlight that this is you know, this analysis, like, quote, unquote, is to, you know, assert justice and the truth. Right? That's all we are trying. Right?

We're not trying to hide the actions of someone. We're not trying to it's just, you know, stating facts. Right? So maybe if brother Shahid wants to give some concluding words to try to connect it, and then I'll inshallah go on to conclusion. Or if any of our speakers would like to say something that I've missed, I'll be very happy to.

Well, I would just say that exactly as you said, the issue here is justice, and the priority here is justice, and the urgent imperative is justice. And that's something that as Muslims we're commanded to do. That's part of our deen, that's part of our religion, that's part of our obligation, that's part of our submission. Whether it's in our interest or not, we have to stand up firmly for justice as witnesses to whatever is the truth. And the the fact that Western so called civilization has in fact always behaved in an animalistic fashion all the way up to the point of declaring human beings themselves to be animals.

Things like justice, concepts like justice, concepts like morality, and values, and principles, and virtue, and nobility, and honor, and so forth. They have always treated this. They've always treated these concepts hypocritically. They've always treated it, they've always treated these concepts as nothing but words, as just, pretty words that you can say, to cover up your ugly actions. They've never taken it seriously ever.

And, as we've been talking about throughout this, space, the consequences of that have been spread all around the world and they're coming back now to, the Western societies, the Western countries. Luckily for them, that is that is resulting in, Muslim immigration to their countries, which does bring some semblance of justice to their countries. It brings people into their societies that actually do believe in justice. So that's inadvertently a good thing for them. By their by their, injustice against Jews in Europe, they brought injustice to the Palestinians and to the entire Middle East region.

That's unspeakable and indescribable like we have like we've never seen before, what they're doing right now. The the irony of it is that their hatred of the Jews was so bad and is so bad that they actually want them to be unjust, to the only people that were ever kind to them. The only people in the world that ever gave them safe haven, that ever gave them shelter and refuge, and that ever did treat them fairly, and that's the Muslims. They want to alienate the Jews from the only people on earth that were ever kind to them, and they have successfully done that. But even with that, even when we are persecuted, even when we are suffering atrocities, we maintain unlike them.

For example, as I said, when the Jews were persecuted, it gave rise to Zionism and injustice and a love for brutality. Well, that never happened with us. You prosecuted us. You exploited us. You colonized us.

You're committing a genocide against us, but we still until today stand up for justice because we're the only people, Wallahi. We're the only people in the world. We're the only ummah in the world that means what we say. When we say that we believe in justice, we mean it. Whether it's for us or against us, whether it's to our benefit or not to our benefit, or even even if we have to be just in in saying a truthful word about the people who are exploiting us and oppressing us and murdering us, we still have to tell the truth.

And that eventually, Insha'Allah, will be the source of our victory, and it will be better for everyone in the region, and everyone even like brother Ali was talking about all the Muslims coming into Sweden. Well, that's the best thing that could have ever happened to Sweden, And that's a mercy from Allah on those people, whether they know it or not. And it might even be a a reason just like with the Muslims who were in Mecca, that was holding off the punishment of Allah upon Mecca. And the presence of Muslims in your lands might just be holding off the punishment of Allah upon your lands. But eventually, inshallah, our standing up for justice and our and our continuing to have that commitment to justice, is going to resolve all of these problems, including the situation in Palestine.

Allahi, this

is this is a little bit off topic, but a little bit with what brother Shahid has said. It's it's something I saw that, oof, brought me to tears, and I am not a crying man. There was a live that was happening on YouTube with a Muslim brother. He was taking questions and answers, and he came across a person who apparently an IDF soldier who defected and was living in Ukraine or somewhere. I'm not sure.

But they went through an entire conversation. He showed him his old medicine cabinet full of full of pills and everything that he has to take to overcome what he had to do during Operation Protective Edge. After about an hour conversation, that man took the Shahadah. And in those comments, all the comments section that just listened to this man talk about the atrocities that he did and what it's done to him. He took the Shahada, and everyone said, brother.

So we really do know mercy. We know forgiveness.

Okay. So what did we cover? You know, we the whole talk was essentially about this scapegoat thing. Right? And, you know, anything, you know, conspiracy theories just to avoid accountability.

Right? And even this blank shifting, like, you know, it started from, like, yeah, it was Eve's fault. Right? You know? Then it was the women, then the Jews, then the communists, then now Muslims.

Right? It it's anyone just not, you know, western, you know, westerners. Right? That's essentially the key point. Right?

Try to blame it on anyone. And this, again, is somehow just a manifestation of Iblis' mentality and his behavior. Right? We have to again, the main summary is that we do this to stand for justice and try connect all the points and see reality for what it is inshallah. And, hopefully, with, you know, Allah's help, we will be able to do this better every other day inshallah.

So thank you very much to everyone who joined. You know, just remember that when the worldly life as Abu Sulaiman ad Dharani said, you know, when the worldly life settles in a person's heart, the afterlife leaves it. K? So thank you everyone for joining. Thank you to our speakers who took their time to be here with us.

Thank you, brother Ari, brother Shahid, sister Wahida, sister Salma, everyone. I hope that everyone who was listening, you know, learned something new, tried to, you know, clarify some points that they might have had. So thank you very much. I I really enjoyed today's session. So and see you next week.

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