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Coffee Conversations: Destabilizing Empire

Middle Nation · 24 Aug 2024 · 34:41 · YouTube

Gonna talk about Elon Musk and Tesla Yeah. Leaving Malaysia or losing interest in being in Malaysia and ASEAN generally ASEAN generally. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that that's that has more to do with the Houthis than anything else.

It probably has more to do with the Houthis and Yemen than it has to do with him necessarily losing interest in Malaysia, although or ASEAN. Although there are aspects of it also that are certainly political, but the truth is that, for example, container shipping prices have doubled over the last year. Basically, doubled since the beginning of the conflict in Gaza and the Red Sea, and that's because of what the Houthis are doing in the Red Sea. Okay. Which is it's amazing to think.

It's really amazing to think that just what these this group of what everyone regards as a militia, but I mean it's functionally functionally a government in Yemen. In just this one country, they're able to disrupt the whole planet. Then the economy of the whole world, and companies, you know, from Asia to America are disrupted. And and it's not obviously, it's not just the Houthis, because the Houthis could be stopped. The the the ability of the Houthis to do what they're doing could be stopped.

Not necessarily that you could completely annihilate the Houthis, but you could stop their ability to do what they're doing. But they're getting backed. They're getting backed by the region. They're getting backed even by Saudi Arabia that has been at war with them, but they're getting backed by Saudi Arabia. You know, the The US attacked them, The US carried out strikes against them, and Saudi Arabia condemned it.

Condemned the strikes on the Houthis, who you've been conducting strikes against for years. But now that's over, now we're on a peace plan, now we're on a a on a road map for peace. And now we're also, Saudi Arabia is also in bricks with Iran. Yeah. And Iran is the back of the Houthis in some capacity, you know.

Bear in

mind that Saudi Arabia had already achieved peace, I think last year.

Yeah. I mean, it's been a bumpy road. Yeah. But they've been pursuing peace Yeah. For a while

now. Then when this was when this was ongoing and there were conspiracy theories about Saudis backing the American control over the situation by attacking the Fugu. They came forward to say that they don't have any beef with the Saudis.

Right. Right. Right.

Yeah. It has to be emphasized here.

Right.

The Saudis are facilitating there and not for their money.

Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're giving them as much protection actually as they can. And and that's that's that's that's hitting Elon Musk because I think they even shut some factories in Europe. Tesla did shut some factories in Europe.

And all of this is is part of of the the transition to the global South in my opinion, what BRICS is doing, and the fact that I think that the Houthis are are operating really under the auspices of BRICS. Because again, there's not there's not a serious question about the fact that they could be stopped. You know, but you can't even get anyone on board with trying to stop them in the region, that's very important. And that's overlooked. And it's also, you know, especially like when when you have people who are people who wanna put forward this idea that the Arab regimes are pro Israel and American puppets and so on.

All you have to do is look at the Houthis. You you will applaud the Houthis and congratulate the Houthis and and and big up the Houthis as if they're doing what they're doing without regional approval.

Oh, yeah.

You act like they're doing it in defiance of the region. They couldn't. That wouldn't be possible. Everyone said that you don't even get to conduct strikes against them using our airspace. You know?

So they're collaborating with each other, they're coordinating with each other. And that's in in my opinion that's all within the context of those countries being aligned with BRICS, being BRICS members. Because the BRICS countries aren't aren't negatively affected by that, Shipping container prices are so high Yeah. Which means the movement the the delivery of not just finished product, but the parts that need to be moved around the world in order to make the product. All of that is slowed down and all of that is more expensive.

Across the board.

Across the board. Yeah. From from start to finish. It's a more expensive process and a slower process, which makes it you can't you can't maintain your your factories, you can't maintain your output. So

because Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't want to resign and risk arrest.

Right. And that's where that's where that's where it really gets where where you really get down to the reality of what's causing all of this problem. Yeah.

Problem.

The actual problem, if you wanna call it a problem, say that the disruption, all the disruption to the global economy is laid at the feet of Benjamin Netanyahu. Yeah. The disruption of the entire global economy is because and and then take it a step further, is because America won't do what it's supposed to do with regards to Israel. They're not going to do with Israel what they would do if anyone else was doing what they're doing. Because that's who you are.

This is what I was saying in the in the in the live with sister Haya, that that it's it's a kind of like the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. America started, was founded and and grew and developed by means of genocide of the indigenous population. That's the that's the first bookend. That's the first bookend for American empire. And Gaza is gonna be the last bookend, the closing bookend for the American empire.

Starts with genocide, ends with genocide. Genocide made you, and genocide will end you. Genocide will destroy you. Because you because because of your the whole your whole culture, your whole your whole so called civilization, and your whole system is summarized in Israel and the Zionist colonial occupation. That that Israel is a microcosm of everything America is.

The violence, the racism, the colonization, the brutality, the the fraud, the corruption, you know, the the complete disregard even for your own citizens. Israel is the same way, they don't care about their own people. Look at how many of their people are in the street saying, sign an agreement and get the hostages home, you don't care. You don't care about the people who are or are not hostages, you don't care about it. Just like America doesn't care about their own people.

Always with the with the with the idea that there's an external security threat to your country, which therefore justifies you attacking everyone, you know? Everything, Israel is a microcosm of everything that America is. And America can't extract itself, it can't disconnect itself from that because that's who you are, That's the quintessence of America is is is manifested in the existence of the Zionist occupation and the existence of Israel. So you are absolutely unable to let go of that and it's gonna pull you into the depths of hell. It's gonna end your country.

It's gonna end your your whole empire because you can't let go.

Yeah. Yeah.

You can't do the right thing. You're not capable of doing the right thing because that's like, that's because the right thing is literally the opposite of what you are, and what you've always been, and what you've built your whole persona around, if you if you put it in a you know, anthropomorphic way. The whole personality of America, to get them to do the right thing means for you to just be a completely different person than you are. So you can't. Yeah.

You are what you are. It's your nature. Yeah. Are what you are. Have to you have to ride this horse off the cliff.

Yeah. And then there was the other thing we were gonna talk about. I want I wanted to to mention about Bangladesh. Oh, no. Mister And what and and what just happened at Bangladesh.

Yeah. I forwarded a bunch of things to you from from the Bangladeshi brother from the from the private chat. Talking about, you know, just how how blatantly phony this new so called interim government is, and how it's clearly just made up of western agents and western clients, you know, either who are directly connected already to Mohammed Yunus or who are directed to Western NGOs and so on. And the the the leaders of the so called student protesters are just clearly people who work for basically CIA frank organizations, you know. And I wanted to talk about it in the context of, of what we've been reading regarding the history of The US interference in Burma, using it as a launching pad for agitation against China back at the end of World War two, and and and in the nineteen fifties as a as a as a as an attempt, in an attempt to undermine the so called communist revolution, the communist revolutionary forces.

You had Chiang Kai shek and the Chinese nationalists Yeah. And then you had Mao. And America supported of course the nationalists, which actually just means America created the nationalists. It's not like you're you're actually a movement that exists. We've we created you and we we built you up and you know, you work for us.

It's not that America supported them, you work for us. You're supporting us actually in China. That's what that's actually how that translates. When it says America is supporting this or that or the other group, it means that that group is supporting America there in their country, supporting America's agenda in this or that country. So the student protest is we're supporting America.

If America is backing you, it means that you're backing America and their plans in your country. That's how that translates, every time. Every time. And so I was thinking about what they did in in Burma, and in Tibet, and in Nepal, using all of those as launching pads for agitation against China, and also using them as a place to train and organize and coordinate the activities of, you know, opposition groups. They did that back in the fifties, and now they've done what they've done in Bangladesh.

Well Bangladesh is very well positioned to be a launching pad for regional destabilization, against China, against India, against Pakistan, and they can involve Myanmar, because Myanmar is already a mess. And that's and it's not a mess without the presence of American interference. That is clearly there's American interference in Myanmar, and I know that from my own history of working with the Rohingya groups that, at least one of the, militant factions among the Rohingya is backed is CIA backed. You have people who are very close with the American embassy who are involved in supporting those people. That's transparent.

And then you have in Bangladesh, have a very large population, at least a million Rohingya there, and Cox Bazar refugee camp, and elsewhere. Okay, so Bangladesh can now become a launching pad, and it can become a training ground for separatist groups, for militant groups, for opposition groups and so on. For the Uighurs, for example, for the Rohingya, and for other ethnic ethnically based opposition or militant factions in Myanmar. All of those can now be, especially because they want to have this military base on Saint Martin's Island, you could, they can, they'll use that. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear soon about the the construction of a new embassy for the Americans in Bangladesh.

I wouldn't be surprised. They may not, but you know, that's that's that's one of the normal things they'll do. If if and that's a sign that it's going to be a hub for their operations regionally. So if they do build like a new embassy, that's that would be a sign. But I mean there's a lot of things, know, like if if you're not aware, actually aware and informed and educated about the history of what America has done and how they've done it, and how they never change in what they do and how they do, then you're going to get duped, you're to get led by the nose, just as the Americans want to do and just like they did with your previous generations in your country and in your region.

Because they just keep doing the same thing over and over again. But if you're not familiar with it, it's all new to you, and you'll believe it. I mean when you look at what they did in Italy,

Back in each time they changed out, I know what?

The end of World War II. I mean, in fact, American interference in Italy is ongoing. It's been decade after decade after decade until today. But but it started in 1947, 1948, and there was an absolute because okay. Let me just say, the communists, the leftists, the socialists were among the strongest factions against the fascists in Italy, against Mussolini.

In other words, they're fighting on the side of the allies against their own government, so called government, the dictatorship of As soon as they won, the Americans turned against them.

Of course.

Because you're communist, you're socialist, you're leftist, whatever. Meaning, you probably wanna control your own economy, and you wanna control your own resources, and you wanna take care of your people, when you don't seem to understand what we were fighting for was for you to take care of our people. We assumed that that's why you were fighting the Nazis and why you were fighting the fascist was because you love us and you wanna take care of our people. Now, you're you're betraying us now as Italians, thinking about Italy. You're supposed to only have in your mind the best interest of The United States Of America.

This is the mistake a lot of people make. So they they they unleashed an absolute avalanche of propaganda and, extortion and bribery against the, socialist and communist political parties that were poised to win the election. Democratically win the election. And America said, if you elect any kind of a government, that includes these people, these leftists, communists, socialists, what have you, if you democratically elect these people, we will cut Italy off financially in every way and we may even use force to ensure that Italy can remain free. Free.

Free. The definition of free is in my hand.

Yes. Free of total leaders.

Yeah.

Subject to us.

Free of Italian sovereignty. And and and you have to look at the the propaganda campaign that they ran, and all of the things that they did. So that you can recognize when it's happening today. So you can recognize when they're doing it now, because they're doing it now all the time, they haven't stopped. They're doing it against the Muslim rulers, they're doing it against MBS, they're doing it against The UAE and Jordan, And so when you see someone doing that, then you have to know who those people are and realize that for example, Middle East Eye or any of these other ones that are basically Ihwani media outlets.

This is a CIA front operation. You've implicated yourself now. You've exposed yourself as basically working for the Americans because I see you doing the same thing that everyone else who ever worked for the Americans did and I'm supposed to pretend that you're not also working for the Americans. You're doing the same thing that everyone ever did who worked for the Americans.

By your characteristic and attributes of what you're doing.

Right. Yeah.

Implies. The same thing.

Yeah. And you may not even know. You actually may you yourself may not even know because you may be just that stupid and that uneducated and that ignorant and that uninformed about history and that and that ideologically blind.

Yeah. And due to believing that you're doing good.

Yeah. You may you may really believe it, and that makes you just the saddest person on earth. But the ideal one, the one America will love you better than anybody until they don't have any use for you anymore. And then they'll turn against you too. Like if you if you're familiar with the history of the CIA and America's covert operations, you you you cannot misunderstand what happened in Bangladesh as if it was an organic event.

If if you're familiar at all with the history of America and how they operate, you you will never make that mistake of actually confusing what happened with an organic revolution. I mean, if nothing else, you you would know that you you would know by the American response to what happened, which was

Celebrating.

Yeah. Oh, that's great. Well done. I mean, just as a rule of thumb, whenever America is happy about any political development in your country, it's bad for your country. And and very likely they are behind it.

And if you do if you do an autopsy, you know, a forensic analysis of anyone and everyone, and all of the factors that were involved in that political event, you will find America in the DNA. You'll find they'll leave DNA traces all over it, just like a crime scene. America's DNA will be all over that crime scene. It it's a very it's it's a very useful exercise to take anything that America is doing or saying about another country or in another country, and then reverse it and see if it makes sense. See if it makes sense for Libya to invade America, to save them from their dictatorship.

Does that make sense? Why does it make sense to you when America does it? Except that you are indoctrinated and propagandized to the point that you don't know right from wrong. And you have accepted now in your head whether you'll admit it or not, you've accepted in your head that America is by definition good, and everything they do is good, and that just makes you a completely propagandized robot. You know?

That makes you no different from the Nazis, it makes you no different from the the the Soviet propagandists who believed everything and anything, who believed that there is no unhappiness in the Soviet Union, you know? No crime exists in the Soviet Union. You believe in this Utopian paradise, where you actually think that America is perfect, and that it basically operates as a vessel of God. So anything and everything they do is righteous by definition.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because if you can't reverse it, why is it righteous when America does it, but when anyone else does it, it's terrorism and a crime and it deserves, you know, massive retaliation. But when America does it, it's fine. Just like with what they did in Italy, all those years ago, and continue to do until today, while talking about Russian interference in our elections, Chinese interference in our elections, Iranian interference in our elections, what, Cuban interference in our elections, who else? You know? If you're Meanwhile you're doing nothing but interfere in every election everywhere, which is the only reason why you demand there to be elections anywhere.

Yeah.

You don't care what form of a government it is unless there's an election, if you can put an election that gives you a better opportunity to interfere and to control the outcome. That's the only reason.

Fair election and fair outcomes in your favor.

Right. That's why you're pro democracy. You're pro an authoritarian client state with a veneer of democracy to give it legitimacy, to make it look like the people actually support supporting American companies. Everyone, every, you know, if you if you go around and just ask normal people, what do you want out of life, you know, in the in the global South. What do you want out of life?

What do you see as the purpose of life? All of them, without exception will say, to increase the profit margins of American companies. That's why God put me here. That's that's my purpose, to improve the American quality of life, you know. That's what they want you to believe, actually.

That's actually what they want you to believe everyone in the global South thinks. That's the only way that you could understand their policies and their behavior as making any sense. As not being oppressive and unjust Mhmm. And brutal, is if that was actually true. So the only way for for you to not see their policies as brutal and oppressive and unjust is is if you really believe that people are walking around in the global South dreaming of ways that they can help American business.

That that's their highest aspiration in life. I just want to make sure that every American has Netflix, you know. Ideally, if I can give my life, if I can if I can give my life for the sake of Americans being able to Netflix and chill, it's been all worthwhile. It doesn't matter what I have to go through. You know?

You know how you know how they say if it brings it's if it if it brings a smile to one child's face, just add American child. Fat American child. If I can put if I if I can put a smile on some fat American child's face, it's all been worthwhile. It's not that I don't want them to go hungry. I want them to be better fed.

I want them to be more well fed. I want them to have all the calories. They should have all the calories. That's what I'm here for. Yeah, I have children, they go hungry, that's fine.

That's what they do. That's why I brought them into the into the world. That's why I father children, so they can go hungry. That They can go hungry and die of disease, preventable disease and so on. That's why I had them.

I I, you know, when they're crying at night, hungry, sick, I tell them just just know. Been put It's it's for a good reason.

Put utilization.

You are not suffering in vain, my son. Somewhere somewhere in America, there's a big fat kid

Yeah. Who's happy that you suck

Stuffing his face with chips and chocolate, watching Netflix, the cheap cheap energy, you know. It's all worth it. It's all worth it. I mean, really that's that's how you have to really believe. If you can say if you can say two these things simultaneously.

That America does good all around the world, you know. Even just that, that's all you have to say. If you can say and mean it and mean it, America is doing good all over the world, Then this is what you must think about everyone around the world. That we all live, eat, drink, breathe nothing but the desire to enrich the lives of the Americans. We're the yeah.

Yeah. We're honored. We're honored at the opportunity to serve your profit interests. You have to believe that. So when when you tell me that America is doing good all over the world, then I know that you are an absolutely demented racist, white supremacist, western supremacist criminal.

That's what you are.

It only becomes solidified and real if an American white supremacist talks about it.

Yeah. Well, I mean, again, this isn't gonna be someone who this this is where it becomes really entrenched and unsolvable, the racial issue in America. Because obviously this woman is not an advocate of white supremacy.

Yeah. I understand.

But you are a product of white supremacist thinking, whether you like it or not.

Yeah. Even even African Americans can have this same type of behavior.

Yes. Well, at the end of the day African Americans also have to understand you're Americans. Yeah. This actually is the way the rest of the world sees you because this is also the the way that you interact with the rest of the world. Yes.

Only what you say is quite the reality.

Yeah. Yeah. This this this again, I mean, we need to we need to come up with a a like a a kind of a like a a bullet points or something of of the the attributes of the American condition. Yeah. And and it will it's not far removed from just the general western condition.

Yeah. One of which is that you are so impenetrably insular that you really cannot understand anyone else's experience. And that your own experience is universal.

Uh-huh.

Everything that you believe is universal and it is always right. Yeah. Your from your vantage point is always the right vantage point that that gives you a 360 degree view. Your narrow point of view is it is always the definite the definitive 360 degree view of any issue or of any place or of any religion or of anyone else's experience or history. And the and the that that is a thing that is characteristic of every American, white, black, brown, whatever they

are. Uh-huh.

All of them have that mindset. Yeah. And this is why I think, you know

Yeah. This is across this is across colors.

Yeah. Exclusive. It's even largely across class. Yeah. Because you're you're just you're just that's just it.

That's just that's just that's how you were raised, really. I mean, you you have a hard time understanding anyone else's experience in your own country on a class level and on a racial level obviously. You don't under you don't you don't see as valid. White people don't see as valid, for example, the grievances of African Americans. Unless they unless they want to say that for the purpose of disassociating themselves with white supremacy.

That's generally the reason why they will express solidarity or express sympathy or empathy or understanding about the experiences of black people. Isn't because they have sympathy or empathy or understanding of the experiences of black people, it's so that they can disassociate themselves from white supremacy. It's all it's about how you're gonna how you wanted yourself to be perceived. It's not about your ability to actually perceive and understand other people, It's about I want to improve my image.

Yeah. It's yeah. It's not even about internally correcting yourself.

No. It's not about correcting yourself at all. It's about making sure that you never have to. You know?

Because you you have this constant tag.

Yeah. No. Officially, I'm a liberal.

Yeah.

Officially, I'm a very understanding empathetic person. Officially, I'm not a white supremacist. Officially, I'm not a racist. Alright. Because I'm in the marches, you know.

I voted for Obama, or whatever the case may be, you know. So it's it's about it's about making sure that I'm perceived the way that I want to be perceived, and so that I can feel that way about myself without actually doing any anything about it. And and and I I almost don't blame them, because you don't have the tools. You really don't have the tools. There is no solution.

Like I just said in the chat, there really is no remedy for the racial ailments of The United States except for Islam. There's nothing. There is absolutely nothing except Islam that can save you because it is an intractable mess on all sides of colors, whatever whatever color you are, you you you you you this the racism and racialism and and and the racialization of every single thing is an absolute pestilence on your psychology, on your psyche, and there's nothing that can remove it except Islam, really.

I think a lot of colored people don't may may find this hard to

Sure. Disturb. Sure. But but but but that's that's that's part that's a symptom.

Yeah. Outside of seeing like that

Yeah.

Americans, you know?

Yeah.

Doesn't matter what color they're just American.

Yeah. I mean, you can see that you can see the the sort of spat going on now between South Africans and African Americans. Yeah. Like, you think you're gonna lecture? You know, African Americans, you think you're gonna lecture African South Africans?

You think you're gonna lecture South Africans or anyone in Africa? You know? What? It's very cute. Yeah.

That's that's what I mean. You you also have this western supremacist, American supremacist main character mindset. And the inability to understand anyone else. And the inability to have the humility, you know, to to actually close your mouth and listen. The same thing that you that that African Americans will accuse white people of accurately of not listening to them, of just waiting for the just waiting for their turn to speak.

Right.

You know, I'm officially letting you talk until it's my turn to speak so that I can't be I can't be accused of trying to mute your voice. That's the only reason they let black people speak. So that I can't be accused of using your voice and now you've spoken, okay, now it's my turn, you know. And but but but all of Americans are like this. Americans are just like this.

Americans are just like this. So you you, as I say, accurately accuse white people of that in America, but Africans can accuse you of that just as accurately. You don't listen, you don't try to understand, all you think you have to do is lecture everybody in the world, because you think that your experience is universal, and it's not. And especially the African American experience, it's literally not duplicated anywhere on earth in history. African Americans are a a completely unique phenomenon as a people.

They don't they what who they are culturally, what their history is, what their experience is, isn't duplicated anywhere on earth. You know, you you don't know what where where you came from. You don't know what country you came from. You don't know what culture you came from. You don't know what language you came from.

You don't know what your religion was before, you know. And you and like I said before, you're more American than anyone because you don't have any other identity. Actually, your entire identity is American based. That's not the case of anyone else. Yeah.

I'm Irish American, I'm German American, I'm Italian American, I'm Jewish American, I'm this or that the other. You can say African American, but you don't know anything about Africa. You don't even know which part of Africa, Africans don't call themselves that. Yeah. Because I know my tribe, I have my language, I have my my region, my country, my whatever, you know.

It's like it would be as it's it's it's like me saying European American. I'm not European. I'm specifically Irish and German. But you can't say that. You are American.

You're the original Americans, you know. Everyone else is immigrants. You you can't even be called immigrants.

Yeah.

You know. You're originally American and and and and your culture is come is as close to being the indigenous culture of America as there can be without you being the indigenous people, you know. You're you're the indigenous people of the entity called America, called The United States Of America. Everything else came from elsewhere. Your culture is the only one that came from right there because you're cut off from everything else, you know.

There's nobody else like that. There's nobody else like that in the world. There's no other culture like that

in the world.

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