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Middle Nation Content Talks: Europe's Destabilisation Project

Middle Nation · 29 Sep 2024 · 117:45 · YouTube

Okay. It's thirty five, so we will start and, you know, the rest will join. So So today, we will be discussing the ongoing destabilization of Europe. Okay? And this has mainly been shaped by, you know, some external financial and political forces.

In this today's discussion, inshallah, we'll seek to somehow uncover what are the factors, why is this happening, who are the actors, how are they doing it. So we will try to, you know, assess what is essentially influencing Europe's current events until now, what happened since, okay, let's say, the Ukrainian war where it, you know, picked up the pace. And from that, we, inshallah, try to assess what is the future trajectory, what are the possible options that Europe might have, and the respective countries in Europe. So, miss Malahman Rahim, this is just some introduction because the video that we'll be looking at is called Europe at a crossroads. Okay?

And that's essentially the endpoint, right, of the discussion that we will have. Yeah? Because now the video is about basically the it has two options. Yeah. Europe, either follow the predatory supporter, quote, unquote, that was there until now or try to realign with the global South and try to, you know, focus on that aspect.

Right? But to understand the future trajectory, we need to understand what got us into this point. Right? So inshallah, the discussion later, we'll focus on that, but I'll just give the video now to understand where we are and what's coming. K?

So enjoy, and then we will focus on the rest.

Well, Europe is really at a crossroads. The EU, The UK, all of America's Western so called allies, they need to make a an urgent reassessment of their relationship with The United States. Of course, this also means that the people of those countries in the EU and so on, they need to make a serious reevaluation of their own leaders, all of whom are just going along with America's plans and who seem to be the only leaders left in the world who still think it's a good idea to follow Washington's orders. Know, 60% of Europeans no longer feel that America is a reliable ally or partner. That puts EU leadership at odds with the population in this regard.

Even the European Council on Foreign Relations said that America's interests and Europe's interests no longer align particularly on trade and security issues. And, of course, they're right. America has been pursuing a systematic campaign of destabilization across Europe for years and particularly since the Ukraine war and the Russian sanctions. I've been talking about that since the beginning. Thanks to these policies, Europe is in a death spiral.

Bankruptcies are at record highs, business closures, home foreclosures, companies relocating, factories shutting down. I mean, Germany is in a a rapid state of deindustrialization. America is trying to pit Europe against Russia, pit The UK against Russia, which is depriving the whole continent of affordable energy as prompting militarization, which they can't afford, all of which is for the benefit of American oil and gas companies and for The US weapons sector. People are becoming radicalized. Extremism of all stripes is emerging.

You know? Europeans feel that their societies are more polarized than ever. Protests are taking place more frequently and are turning violent more frequently. Repression is getting worse. It's getting more severe.

Terrorist attacks are increasing, particularly from far right groups. The internationals the International Center for Counterterrorism attributes this, at least in part, to the war in Ukraine and the influx of neo Nazis and other extremists and the flood of small arms that were supposedly being sent to Ukraine. The whole continent is sliding into irreversible strife, and that's blatantly by American design. The US is also trying to drive a wedge between Europe and China even though they desperately need Europe desperately needs Chinese investment, Chinese capital, Chinese technology, and the Chinese market for their own exports. And, again, European leaders are just going along with this in defiance of their own populations and, obviously, against the interests of their own people because EU leaders are subservient to Washington neocons.

America always intended for the war in Ukraine to spread. They never intended for Ukraine to win. The whole point was always to accelerate Europe's destabilization, their isolation, and their deterioration. And so far, no

one is doing anything whatsoever to pump the brakes. So, yes, America and its so called western allies, The UK, the EU, are really at

a make or break point. You know, people always talk about being on the right side of history. Well, Europe needs to start making decisions on the right side of the future because their relationship with The United States has frankly put them into an existential crisis. The fact is BRICS is building an alternative to the old US led world order, and Britain and the EU need to understand this. The global system of the twentieth century is a relic.

The balance of power no longer favors the g seven, and the Global South is the only vehicle left with wheels still on it and with a working engine. And Europe needs to hitch a ride with them if they don't want uncle Sam to drive them off a cliff because that's where they're going now. I mean, I know it's gonna be a a traumatic adjustment for these Westerners, for these Europeans, accepting the fact that your so called Western civilization and your societies are actually unsustainable and your great American protector and benefactor is actually cannibalizing you. But on the other hand, turning to the global South for your survival isn't really anything new. I mean, you never would have actually even been anything of significance without your imperialism and colonization of Africa and Asia.

So the truth is that you've always been a dependency, and you still are. The difference is that you used to get to pretend that you weren't the dependent one because you used to be able to just steal from the global South in order to prop up your societies. But you've always been dependent, so there's no real change there. Just a an attitude adjustment is necessary and an acceptance of your real status vis a vis the global South. You will have to humble yourselves to some degree to cooperate with Bricks.

But believe me, it's better than the utter humiliation that you're gonna suffer if you continue cooperating with the Americans.

Okay. Hope you enjoyed this. Inshallah. So as brother Shahid explains in the video, right, you know, Europe now finds itself faced with this critical choice. Right?

Either we continue aligning in the same relationship with The United States neocons as we have been until now, right? And we see where that has led us or we shift. There is no other option. This can be an opportunity for Europe, right, where essentially it will try to move on from its historical dependence on the West to a dependence that actually might even treat their people well. Right?

Because until now, it has been in this position of just serving the purpose of some elite. Right? And it's a nonnational elite. It's an elite that only cares about profit. Right?

And, of course, we see the similar trend in The United States. Right? So this is a western trend. Right? It's not just specific to Europe, but Europe is now gonna probably serve a different role, right, from the perspective of what we see going on.

So I think that we need to try to go to the source. Right? So the first of all, like, the first question that pops up when talking about this destabilization project is basically why even have this destabilization. Right? So what is the purpose of having a destabilized Europe?

How would that serve anyone? How would they you know, why would they try to impose this policy? Why would they try to shift Europe towards a conflict zone? So these are all questions that we need to address before moving on and trying to see who is the actors who are the actors responsible, how which role they play in this project. So I'll try to ask, in all our speakers, so anyone feel free to reply.

You know, why would the OCGFC okay. Maybe you can even speak about the OCGFC if you want because some of our listeners might not have heard about that term before. Right? So what are the drivers of this g OC GFC? Maybe sister Samira or sister Eman, like, who gave rise to these entities?

You know, how are they able to wield such power? Right? Like, how come that we have some entities, you know, these owners and controls of global financialized capital, the they are able to dictate the policy of a whole continent. Right? So if maybe you can just give an introduction to these players so we understand better what their motives might be in regards to European policy.

Assalamu alaikum. Bratavaili to everyone, listeners, to all the listeners here. I've been listening about well, I've been following Middle Nation videos on this, like it's been a while, but regarding the OC GFC, that's when I first heard it from from the Middle Nations YouTube channel, the owners and controllers of global financialized capital. And to be honest, when you first listen to the videos on on this OCGFC, you kind of tend to not really grasp the term. But as events unfolded and well, the only thing that you need to think about them when it comes to them is they're just interested in profit.

That's the most important thing to understand that they are just they do anything. They don't have any feelings for nationalism. They don't believe in ideology. They don't have any ideology except the ideology of money profiting. And so once you understand that part, then you can understand why they are trying to well, you can understand all the movement that is going on around the world, all the shifting global shifts and dynamics that are changing.

And when it comes to Europe, as you mentioned, there is this Europe is becoming unstable, unsustainable in terms of its demographics, for example, where there is a decline in its demographics and there is also the stagnation economic stagnation. And it's becoming really irrelevant in the global stage. It's like a dying empire, a dying continent, as they used to say to Turkey during the Ottoman Empire. And so the OCGFC seems to think that it's not really profitable to except to create war, except to create a destabilization in that area, in that continent, that's the only way they can get profit from such a continent, a dying continent. And so this is how I understood what the OCGFC is trying to do in Europe and why they are trying to destabilize the continent, because it makes money out of destabilizing the continent.

Thank you very much, sister Samira. Yeah, brother, MJ, please feel free to.

Yeah. I would like to add also that mainly, as you said, when we're talking about the rules, we have to understand that the current corporate and banking elite or what people call also the OGCFC, they are originally from Europe. And as Shahid also said that one of the things one of the characteristics about Europe is the harsh conditions, the harsh environments that make what I call predatory survivability something of the norm in that part of the world. Now, we're here looking also at not just behavioral factors, but what drives these behavioral factors, most notably the environmental factors as well. So Europe as a continent, first of all, is very tribal.

Like, we we shouldn't be too much preoccupied by how the social management the existing social management system is working. At the core, it's a very tribal continent. Also, you have yeah. You also have a

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a climate that we can say that is almost for half the year like a desert. With the exception of Mediterranean Europe, you have Central Europe and Northern Europe. Half the time of the year, the conditions, at least when I'm talking here about the historical conditions. So we're talking about a millennia ago at at least. Most of the time, it's freezing temperatures.

You can't cultivate. You can't farm. It's very harsh. And so at least during half the half the seasonal year, it is very nomadic and predatory. So this is where I would say the origins of why such behavior exists.

And of course, because of that, as the historical process proceeds and as these, how we say, corporate and banking lead or OGCFC, OCGFC evolves, they begin to realize that from a feasibility standpoint and from a profitability standpoint, it is better to just move away from that continent and go to, how we say, the Mediterranean Basin. So I wouldn't say that they want to move away from all of Europe because some parts of Europe are still, how we say, environmentally habitable. And so what you have basically, for example, countries like the Mid in in the eleventh, but also Egypt and The Middle East, you can cultivate land and for basically all every single day of the year. The weather most of the time is the variability of the weather during the year is not that big, and so you can cultivate land and and make it an agricultural breadbasket for most of the year. In Europe, even though we have the technology and means to do even though we have the technology and means to do that in in Europe, it is still expensive.

So there is that aspect. Now, of course, putting aside all the other things, we're talking about just also the the resources, the the fossil fuels, the solar energy, etcetera. So for them, it is much more feasible to go to areas where there it's already rich and existing and areas where you also have a younger population, not an aging population. Yeah. And I think that's my input from that from that angle.

And if anyone cares to add or maybe correct anything I may have made a mistake on, I'm more than welcome.

No. Thank you very much, brother. You are right exactly. Like, for sure, you know, essentially, these companies that we now have or these, you know, owners and controllers of global financialized capital, like, the West, as you said correctly, gave rise to them, right, and to their behavior. And, basically, like, we had it before in, you know, public hands, right, with the Dutch East Indian company and British Indian company.

Now we just shifted to private hands. Right? Like, there is nothing different than the same behavior that the states used to do in the colonial times. Now it's just private entities doing the same. Right? So

So we moved from, you know, public slavery to private slavery, you know, public subjugation to private subjugation. Right? But now if we shift it, like, specifically to European context, right, like, what would be the potential benefits for them to turn it into a conflict zone? Right? Like, usually, they will tell you, you know, in economics that you need a harmonious, prosperous society to be able to get productivity, right, and, like, have economic growth and benefits the investors.

So how can they essentially profit from conflict? Right? And, basically, also try to relate it to how does this align with their historic historical strategies, right, what they did in, you know, Africa, what they did in Latin America, what they did in Southeast Asia, in Asia in general. Right? Like, this is their approach to the rest of the world.

And now, basically, what we are seeing is the shift that it's gonna be you know, the rest of the world is gonna become Europe, and Europe is gonna become the rest of the world, basically. Right? So there's gonna be this shift in approach to the rest of the world from the perspective of the OCGFC. Right?

Yeah. So I I don't think it's going to be that black and white, in my opinion. I mean, Europe also is a very diverse continent. Western Europe, I think, in general, when I'm talking about Western Europe, I'm talking about, of course, The United Kingdom, France, Belgium, The Netherlands, maybe The Netherlands, so forth. It's I think because of the demographic crisis they're facing, I don't think they will go into the kind of conflicts that I foresee with Eastern Europe, especially between Poland and Russia.

So we could see Western Europe slowly getting integrated into BRICS as a result of the population demographics changing, and you have the the bottom up push for governments to become more cooperative with BRICS. I don't see it that way with many of the Central European countries like Poland and the Baltics. And because of the the how you say the the conflict they would have with Russia. So we have for you to take this approach, we have to kind of dissect the continent and see which parts of the continent are subject to joining bricks based on the population demographics and based on the historical circumstances, which will be pushed off the cliff to be blunt about it.

Yeah. Thank you. Maybe sister Eman, I know you are, like, you know, in the invoking the article six. And, basically, that is against, you know, trying to kick out this approach that The US has to the rest of the world. Right?

So you probably already, you know, have some idea about why they want conflict. Right? And especially, can see it, for example, through Israel, right, nowadays. Right? Why this is, you know, profitable investment to some degree.

So I'm just, you know, trying to search for means why they wanna create conflict zones. What is the benefit for them? Right?

Yeah. I think one of the reasons for like, the reason why they want to drive Europe into a conflict zone. I don't think it's random. I think it's caused by, like, a calculated move to be able to transform Europe into an area, a zone that brings more money into essentially what we would call the military industrial complex. I think the the way they make this money, the mechanism of it is basically profiting off of war and basically increasing their basically, profiting off of war so that they could create financial gain through things like arms sales, reconstruction contracts, and resource extractions under duress.

So, essentially, to be able to make money I mean, I think we've we've seen this across the entire Middle East. We've seen this in multiple different countries where they make money from all of this by selling arms, by offering to reconstruct certain places in certain countries, labeling it as a hand of a truce or of peace. And so, for example, if The United States were to instigate a sort of war zone within Europe, what they could do is create this war. Firstly, they they're making money off of this war. And even after it's done, America, of course, obviously, always benefits from geography due to the fact they're a lot further away than any other country within Europe.

Obviously, they're across the Atlantic. And so what they would do is they wouldn't have to reconstruct their own country, but they would reconstruct other countries, and they would pay them. So, again, that could essentially bring the money back in to the military industrial complex, and we know that The United States owns about 40% of that. And that's why we're not seeing the same level of dishevelment within The United States, and I think that's why we're seeing it within Europe.

Yeah. You're right. Exactly. And as sister Samira pointed out, right, these people, you know, they care only about profit. So, you know, every approach to a country from their perspective is an investment.

Right? And, you know, Europe is just not a profitable investment anymore. Right? That is, like, how I see it, to be honest. Right?

Like, what is like, what can Europe do to make it a profitable investment? Like, I when I was thinking about it personally, I have no idea. Right? Like, it doesn't have resources. Maybe it has some, you know, universities What kind of education.

Right? Like, it's just, again, you know, western indoctrination type of education. Right? So it's very hard to find any aspect of European society or continent or, you know, general economy that would make it viable as an investment opportunity for something. Like, I was even thinking about it from my own perspective.

Right? If I, you know, were given the option to buy a house in what I know, like Germany or in, you know, Saudi or Dubai, there's probably not too much to think about, right, or in Egypt or whatever. Like, in these, you know, coming up economies, inshallah, the with Allah's help, inshallah, will be, you know, the global superpowers in the next world order. But, you know, like, that's the kind of thinking that even a regular person like me might have. So what about, you know, the people who basically all they think about is profiting and, you know, investments.

Right? So maybe brother MG or Inan, I see your hands raised, but, you know, let's try to keep it to the point just so we can move on next.

I think also with, yeah, with what you said about, yeah, what what's in it for you. Yeah. I definitely agree. I mean, even even with the education because what we have seen over time is that the educational system has become more, how you say, all around and lacks depth. So you're also starting to have a unemployment crisis in Europe as a result of low skilled workers or sorry, as as a result of basically, not low skilled workers, as a result of workers, not enough work many potential employees that have to do white collar jobs and less of them having to do low skilled jobs.

And this is becoming a problem because now you have a rise in these countries and bottleneck professions, especially with regards to the professions that are very important in sustaining a civilization. So we're talking here about mechanics, nurses, teachers, etcetera.

Yeah. I kind of wanted to hop into that point as well. There is less and less manual labor working available. And because I'm in The UK, I'm gonna kind of focus on here because The UK does pride itself with the fact that it's a tertiary sector economy, and so it provides services. And that's kind of its downfall again because it it doesn't it's not a primary sector or a secondary sector, which is harvesting crops or growing them and everything.

We don't do that too much within The United Kingdom, especially because of our weather. I mean, we're in September, and it's about four degrees out here. So it's not it's not a great habitable place for plants and everything. So it kind of rides off of what MG was saying earlier. So, again, this rides off of what brother Raleigh was saying.

The Europe doesn't have too much to offer, and The UK does pride itself on the fact that it offers services, but services are not going to keep increasing this money within the OCGFC. It's not gonna be as important as it as it was, let's say, ten years ago. Now any country can become a tertiary sector country, plus they can be a primary and secondary, but The UK can only ever offer tertiary sector things because we quite literally do not have the ability to do anything else.

Can you hear me? Europe

has been living a lifestyle and enjoying a status at least since World War two that they didn't really have to work for and they didn't have to earn. You can say that prior to World War two with when when they were colonial powers, Europe basically survived by being a vampire in the world. And after World War two, they couldn't really be a successful vampire anymore, so they were just getting blood transfusions from The United States that enabled them to continue enjoying something like the status that they had prior to losing their colonial empires. But those days are over now. Now, the the The United States doesn't have a need to continue propping up Europe, and that's what they've been doing since World War two.

They've been propping up Europe. And when they have when they were able to enjoy that sort of a status, they built a system or they developed a system across Europe. Obviously, what what MG said is correct, and that you you actually do have to dissect it and go country by country. But just speaking generally, and he's correct also, and that we're we're basically talking about Atlantic Europe or or Western Europe or what have you. Not Eastern Europe so much, obviously.

But the the system that they created from the perspective of the OCGFC, you could say that Europe's their economic model that they were able to enjoy for the last, you know, eight decades or so doesn't align with the interest of the OCGFC. It's unsustainable as far as they're concerned because it doesn't align with their relentless pursuit of profit maximization and unfettered market dominance. Because they were able to enjoy this this sort of prestige and this this high income status that they weren't, that they weren't actually producing themselves. They they started they they they incorporated this social welfare system, for example. They had fairly strong labor protections and regulations that as far as the OCGFC, this this this limits their ability to exploit whatever resources Europe has and the so called human capital, you know.

They they they maintained a certain degree of social stability, but that was subsidized by the Americans to a great degree in terms of The United States guaranteeing global trade, taking responsibility for security for global trade. But what the what the OCGFC want in every country is deregulated hyper capitalism and a very a sort of a a a free like, I didn't even want to say free market because it's it's not it's not even the right word. A sort of a anarch anarchic market that financialized capital can thrive in. So for the for the global elite, for the OCGFC, the European model with their, for example, basically socialist state involvement in healthcare, in education, social services, so on. That slows down the race to the bottom that they need in order to ensure ever increasing returns on their investment.

Financialized capital relies on the unfettered movement of capital, minimal regulation, the ability to exploit labor without any interference of, organized labor unions and so on or the national government. Europe does have a kind of a history of social democracy and a political culture that's still, maintained, you know, until recently, we're we're seeing it change now, but certain checks on corporate excess. I mean, as you see the the the for example, with the GMOs that are the the genetically modified foods and and whatnot that are freely available in The United States. They still have some restrictions on that in Europe, and this stands in the way of the the the plans and the ambitions of the OCGFC. So what would they do when a model is not conducive to their goals?

Well, obviously, they shift towards destabilization. If you can foster economic crises, you can promote austerity measures, you can manipulate the the political forces and put the push the society towards nationalism, which which is a driving force for conflict, populism, which is a driving force for internal conflict. They they they can undermine the the the foundations of the whole European economic model. The destabilization strategy is designed to erode public confidence in the state's ability to manage the economy. So that they can this will then rationalize, and it can even lead to demands by the public themselves for deregulation and privatization and cuts to social services.

All of these austerity measures that have create precisely the conditions in the society that the the OCGFC thrive in. I mean, furthermore, with with globalization, financialized capital, as I've talked about many, many times on the channel, it no longer depends on the wealth of individual nations. It feeds off of crises. It thrives on volatility. It grows stronger when it can manipulate markets unchallenged.

A stable Europe is too regulated for them. It's too balanced for this. Destabilization allows financial capital to enter new market new new markets under conditions where governments are weakened. That's the whole point. That's the whole drive behind neoliberalism, to weaken the state apparatus.

And then the the the entire social contract is torn apart, And that allows the owners and controllers of global financialized capital to extract more wealth more freely. So Europe's social and economic protections that that, you know, it it probably won't be long. I was talking to my wife just about this the other day, that it's funny that America has always been, you know, sort of fear mongering about communism and leftism and socialism. Meanwhile, most of Europe is socialist, but they never mentioned that. They have socialist policies.

They have parties that they call themselves socialist, but no one mentions that. I wouldn't be surprised if you start hearing him talk about it. Where where now we America will start calling out all of these socialists in in Europe. Demonizing socialism in Europe where they used to turn the other way, they would they would demonize socialism and they would go to all sorts of covert operations against socialists in the global South, but they turned the other way when they were socialists in Europe. I mean, except in certain places where they were like directly communist, like in Greece and Italy and so on, but socialism they tolerated in Europe.

I wouldn't be surprised if you see the the the same old rhetoric from the Cold War era come back again where they talk about socialists and leftists and so on in Europe where you need to get rid of that. Then there's also, obviously, there's the the demographics factor. As MG pointed out, that demographically they are not able to even replenish their population. They can't do the work. They they can't produce enough workers.

They can't produce enough consumers. So what what does a vampire do? What does a parasite do? They it's not a productive entity. It doesn't produce.

It only consumes. And if you're not able to find a way to to acquire all of the things that you want to consume through your own power and dominance and violence and so forth, like they did in the colonial times. If you're not able to do that and they're not able to do that, then what do you do? You starve Or you will be consumed by an by the one who has the power to to to treat you the same way that they have that you treated the global South. And that's that's what they're doing and that's just the iman said.

I mean, you have obviously, if you have conflict across Europe, then this is the one thing that Europe can do to justify its existence to the owners and controllers of global financial as capitalists. The only thing that they can do to show that they have something to offer, they can offer to war profiteering, to arms, to reconstruction contracts. And if you create these kind of conditions in the society, obviously that is gonna lead to privatization of public assets because governments are gonna go bankrupt as we're seeing anyway. And it's got that that will then also lead to increased financialization. Conflicts can create new opportunities for that such as the the creation of new financial instruments, the the expansion of financial markets, the growth of the shadow banking system.

And then also all of that will completely, I won't even say, it's it's not even enough to say weekend. It will devastate any labor movement across Europe. The labor movement will have no power whatsoever. There will be no collective bargaining. There'll be nothing.

People will be desperate for any kind of an income. I mean, now, sister Eman was talking about England or The UK. If you The UK if you talk about The UK economy, you're talking about London. You're talking about one city, basically, what it comes down to is you're talking about London. One wealthy city, in in an entire country.

If you were to separate that and divide it out, say the North Of London or or sorry, the North Of England. If if the North Of England was a country, it wouldn't be a wealthy country. That would that would be that would be a a low income country. And the same the same goes for for throughout Europe. You can look at France, you can look at Germany, you can look at almost any any country that that that their, GDP, what they claim about themselves to be a g their GDP in their high income status or what have you.

If you actually divided that country into sections and and take it outside of say Berlin or Paris or what have you. And look at the the the other parts of the country and compare the per capita GDP of that part of the country, that county or that province or what have you. Those would be poor countries, if they were countries. The majority of people in Europe are not living the life that they're that they have been used to because exactly what I what I'm talking about is already underway and it's only accelerated, and intensified, once the start of with with the start of the Ukraine war and the sanctions against Russia, whereby Europe cut themselves off, insanely cut themselves off from affordable energy. And The United States is trying to push them to drive a wedge between them and China, which they desperately need that relationship economically.

So Europe is being it's very clear and if you look at any of the economic numbers, I mean, just saw I just saw about Germany that the the economy is in decline not just in decline, it's in contraction. That the economy is going to shrink, and that they don't even expect more than they're not even gonna they're not even gonna have growth on the left side of the decimal point for at least two years. If that, that's even your that's wishful thinking that in 2026, you're gonna see growth in the German economy. It's contracting and there's not any sign that there's any reason for it to not contract, not continue to be in recession. Germany is in recession if anyone is being honest.

So, yes, the the the the the only thing that Europe has to offer, the owners and controllers of global financialized capital, is basically to sacrifice themselves as conflict zone in one form or another whether that's conflict between states or internal conflicts between political factions within a country, terrorist activity within a country between being perpetrated by this radical group or that radical group, whether it's from the left or the right, or whether it's Muslim radicals or Christian radicals or what have you. I I I don't see anything in the future for Europe except this kind of chaos and dystopian scenario.

That was packed. And what I would take from I just you know, something stick to stuck to me from what you just said, brother, that, essentially, we need to understand that this has been always the policy towards Europe. Right? At first, after World War two, it was through, you know, economic subjugation means. Right?

So they tried to with, you know, withhold different economic aids to countries. That was the approach how they you know, what they did. Yeah? So they basically blackmailed Italy. They blackmailed Greece, and they blackmailed a lot of other countries.

So for since the beginning, European countries were in a sort of inferior position towards these guys. Right? And all the policies and so, you know, you see this trend of it has accelerated now, but it has always been there. Like, Europe had a specific purpose for these guys, and now the purpose is changing. Well, not the purpose, but the way by which to achieve that purpose.

So by that, I mean, for example, after you know, in the sixties, there was kind of a heavier state control in European countries. Right? So what did they have to do? They had to start, you know, coming up with theories, how to explain that basically state control is bad. And then in the seventies and eighties, we had all of these neoliberal movements in Germany and The UK, like current UK policy and, you know, how it approaches the economy is basically dictated from the eighties with, you know, Margaret Stutcher.

Right? And these all kind of entities that were available at that time. And they were promoting basically to just deregulate the economy, give it all into private hands. Right? And, again, it you know, this is not the will of the people.

Right? This is just some machinations in the background to make use of Europe. Right? And that was the use at that time. Right?

But I feel that since the global financial crisis, this has has stopped. Right? And suddenly, they had to rethink how can we achieve something from Europe by different means. And that's why now the destabilization came into play. Right?

Like, before, there were other viable options how to, you know, extract the most. But now this is probably the best option that they have or that they, you know, figured out. Alright? So that's I I get this feeling with Allah. Right?

I don't know if anyone agrees. But, yeah, subhanAllah. Right? So and Yeah.

What you're you're I'm sorry to interrupt, but, you're you're you're absolutely right. I mean, and the the fact of the matter is that I mean, this is something that it's kind of a theme on the channel, which is that they they've never really changed. Western so called civilization never civilized and then they they never really changed. You you pretended that you went through these drastic changes and with your so called enlightenment that there was this drastic change and now suddenly everything is different. No.

Not nothing's really different. You still have a feudal system. You're still the same way you were before. You still have serfs and landlords. You still have all of that.

Yeah. You just call it by different names and it's maybe a different set of people who are in charge. And that's exactly the same as it was when your church was in charge. You just gave the the the godlike authority, you took it away from the church and now gave it to private capital. It's a secular theocracy because your oligarchs are like are like have holy power.

They have sacred power and you can't even talk about it. And everyone can pretend that we have our democratic system and our our our political system and so forth. Meanwhile, all the actual power and all the actual decisions is is still being made by the feudal lords who have been who are sacrosanct. And what they say goes, and no one can say anything about it. They're not they're not subject to democratic means.

I mean, Europe, like I was saying, you had some degree and have had some degree of controls on what corporations can get away with, but those days are gone. Anyway, days are numbered. It's not going to be long before, the same way that they did the the they'll do the same thing in Europe that they did in Latin America in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties. They'll do the same thing that they did in Africa in the nineteen nineties and the February. They'll do the same thing that they did in The Middle East in the February.

They'll do the same thing they did it that that they did in Eastern Europe in that same time period after the after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They'll do the same thing to Western Europe. You think, I don't know, because you're white or because you're Western or what have you. Maybe you you believe that you're supposed to have some kind of a a a an untouchable status that they can't that they can't eat you. No.

They will. They they've seen that it works in everywhere else around the world, and now they don't care about nations anymore. They don't care about nationality anymore. Your the your British passport's not gonna save you. Your your union, Jack, is not gonna shield you from the the the devouring savage monster of global financialized capital.

No. They'll they'll eat you the same way that they ate the global South. And they'll just like MG was saying, they know better than anyone else which side of the bread is buttered. And they know that the future is not in the West. They know perfectly well that the future is not in the West and they've already secured for themselves the ability to move.

They're not tied anymore. I mean, you can you can you were talking earlier about like how this all developed. We don't really have time to get into it, but I mean, you can map the chronology of how corporate power became what it became, and how financialized capital became the power that it became. The super national that that's floating above borders type of power that they that they have achieved is through court made law in The United States going all the way back to the eighteen eighties with the Southern Pacific Railroad. It it it's to the to the robber barons that that that developed in the in the early twentieth century.

You can you can look at the the Taft Hartley Act that restricted labor union activities in the what was that? In the like 1947 or I think in the in the forties somewhere. The interstate commerce commissions deregulation of industries like trucking and airlines and telecommunication in seventies and the nineteen eighties. And then the the whole so called Reagan revolution, which coincided with what you're talking about Margaret Thatcher, with their policy of tax cuts and deregulation, empowering corporations and and the the whole rise of neoliberalism. And then you move forward into the Clinton era with the North American Free Trade Agreement and the Telecommunications Act of the of 1996 that deregulated the telecommunications industry.

And then of course, the Citizens United case that gave corporations the status of of people and gave them unrestricted the unrestricted ability to buy politicians and to buy the government. So I mean, there's milestones in the development of this beast. The the development of this monster. And and with each milestone, as they passed each milestone, the acceleration rate increased and their power increased with each one, which then enabled the next milestone to be achieved. It's it's you can you can you can map the rise of this monster going all the way back, as I say, the eighteen eighteen eighties, more than a 100 ago, a hundred fifty years ago.

But it's so it's it's not something that's new, but the the the delusional thing is for anyone to think that this monster regards anyone as being untouchable. And that that that Europe, that Western Europe, that, France and The UK or Germany or what have you. I mean, look at what they're doing to Germany. They're they're de industrializing Germany. It's breathtaking.

The the number the number of bankruptcies, the number of factory closures, the number of factories leaving. I just saw a a thing where where Donald Trump, said that basically if he if he gets elected president, he's gonna try to take all the jobs from Germany. Gonna try to take all the companies out of Germany and have them move to The US. They're not they're not discreet about what their plans are. This is this is a a a cannibalistic monster that you created and and it's coming after you, and you shouldn't be surprised.

You really shouldn't be surprised. You you thought that you'd be safe because you were the the the the parent, the father that created this monster, but you created a patricidal cannibalistic monster. And of course, it's coming after you too.

Thank you very much brother Shahid. Brother MJ, if you wanna add something.

Yeah. I definitely agree with, sister Shahid on that. And I do foresee that that is especially after every major geopolitical event we're talking about here, World War one and two, the end of the empire, the genocide going in Gaza, and the war in Lebanon, I I personally foresee that even the the concept of the superpower will cease to exist as as a as what we call the cold war concept. You know, the well, it's Russia, The United States, it's China, like even the how you see the promotion of the multipolar world, it's not going to be a multipolar world of superpowers. It's probably gonna be a multipolar world of regional powers.

So we're going to move away from globalism and more into regionalism, something which is more decentralized, but is still under, obviously, under their control.

I think we can look at this through, the lack of legislation or laws which restricted the ability of people who were noncitizens of the country from owning property and corporations, in a particular country. And because those laws that existed were overturned and similar laws were not enacted, it enabled not the free flow of populations, but the free flow of capital. And so we have arrived at this point. The mistake, I believe, that Europeans made is due to the enlightenment encoding white supremacy in the world, and they thought that would save them. But, ultimately, when you have the free flow of capital as your central raison debt, You know, this is your reason for being the free flow of capital, the maximization of profit, then it becomes a demographics game, and capital is going to go where capital can make the most money down the line.

And so capital has never cared about your skin tone or your hair texture. Capital is only concerned with multiplying itself. And so when the OCGFC took a realistic look at the world. They saw where the future lies, and it is in those countries whose populations are increasing, whose incomes are increasing. And so Europe is reduced to what we can get out of it before the complete collapse.

And and that is what they're doing. They are milking the last drop from this collapsing dying cow, and then they will move on. And there is no protection against, this mentality, this this way of being for anyone based on their skin tone, hair type, religion, or geography. It's a demographics game. And Europe doesn't have enough mineral wealth.

It doesn't have enough land space, and it has a declining population. So it's it's essentially well, what can we do to maximize our profit there? Well, wars, medical supplies, you know, bombing things and rebuilding them. And and that's their mentality.

I just wanted I I I wanted to actually just comment. I know that we have other things to cover, but but I just wanted to comment on this this interesting point that sister Wahida, Sheikha Wahida brought up about incorporating white supremacy in the society in Europe. White supremacy, the the this this is the let me see if I can actually dismantle this. What what those in power have always done is to try to dehumanize whoever they want to exploit. They do they they they dehumanize you on whatever basis they can.

They dehumanize the serfs. They dehumanize the Irish. Their white skin didn't help them. They dehumanized obviously anyone who's black or brown, so called. Anyone from the global South.

They'll they'll come up with all kind of ways to dehumanize whoever they want to exploit. But the the white supremacy idea served a a double function because on the one hand it was the ability to dehumanize people in the global South who who have darker skin tone than the pale Europeans. It gave them the ability to dehumanize them on this basis. And it allowed the the white Europeans themselves, who themselves were being, oppressed, and being exploited themselves. It gave them the ability to believe somehow that they were part of this glorious race.

The same way, it's it's very similar to what I was just talking about, that everyone in The UK can believe we come from a rich country, but actually look around you where you live. If you don't live in the financial district in London, how good how how rich is your life actually? You know, just like in The United States. The United States owe the biggest economy in the world, the the richest, most powerful country in the world. What about if you live in Mississippi?

And what if Mississippi was a country and it wasn't part of The United States? What's your your GDP then? You'd be a middle to low income country. That's the reality of your life. But you get to by association claim this prestige or this high status because the that same high status has actually only been invented and employed for the purpose of dehumanizing other people who who they want to exploit.

But now, you're being exploited as well, but you have this you're hypnotized by this idea of white supremacy. So you are convinced that you're somehow, have this higher status even though they're doing many, oppressive and and tyrannical things to you. It has it has a dual function and and it's it's correct. And like just what I was talking about before, that you think somehow that because you're white, well, this other white country, The United States, or these other white people, these rich white people, they're not gonna do to me the same thing that they did to people in El Salvador. They're not gonna do the same thing to me that they did to people in Congo.

They're not gonna do the to me the same thing that they, do to people in Vietnam. No. Of course, they will. They absolutely will because all they do is dehumanize whoever they want to exploit and oppress.

This is actually a great point because I was yesterday speaking to my friend, and we were you know, because we kept on in the violations, right, I was just remembering how they used to demonize, you know, communism and, exactly, these socialist policies. And, essentially, we came to realize that it's basically just some sort of a threat or, like, a minimization to their exploitation practices. Right? As you correctly mentioned a while ago that they are the ones who are promoting these neoliberal policies. Right?

And, like, at least the practical application of socialism to some degree limits the power of these private entities. Right? Or at least it tries to, you know, shift it to the public sector a bit more than before. And I'm not saying it's a better system or that there are corruptions and so on. Like, it's not for me to decide.

But just the way that they presented even white people, they couldn't, you know, use the race card. Right? So they had to use the communist card. Right? And, again, against the Irish, they couldn't use, you know, race, so they use the religious card.

They're always based on the subject, they will use the card that fits it. Right? If there's someone who's gonna stop me from acquiring what I want, then I will come up with some demonization tactic. Right? Okay.

Hope it makes sense. Yeah. Also, what was very interesting in the video was this cannibalistic behavior. Right? Like, a person hears it, says cannibalism.

Yeah. Okay. I get it. You know, white, eat, and white. It's not about that.

Right? Even, you know, the entities, they were created by the same system. Right? People used to ask, like, why would the EU leaders, you know, go in with this policy? Right?

I Again, it's this sort of like, if you you know, anyone who has a chance here to evade Texas, he's gonna evade Texas. Right? But suddenly, when a politician does it and he's called, right, it starts to be like, oh my god. How how could he steal? Right?

And, like, it's weird. Like, how can you expect the people who are basically, you know, built up from this society to behave any different like, they just want the cash. Right? They don't care if the people are well. They don't care if and there was this great video by brother Shahid where he exactly mentioned, like, you know, these people are getting into these positions to be able to get a position in business.

Right? It's not about serving the people or helping the communities or whatever. It's just about it. Like, especially in a democracy, they know that they will not get the money in the government, that the money is in the private sector. So they will do everything just to get into this private sector.

And this was greatly illustrated in the global financial crisis. Right? In The US, you could see where, for example, Ben Bernanke was shifting from the treasury, right, to the, you know, head of the Federal Reserve to, I don't know, Goldman Sachs, whatever. Right? They just keep on shifting these positions from the private to the public, from public to the private, and just in the purpose to benefit them to make policies that help these, you know, owners and controllers of capital.

So it's like, there is nothing so mysterious about it. Why would people or countries or representatives try to go in this way? It's just the way that benefits them the most, right, materialistically. Right? And that's what the whole society is based on.

Right? So I'm just trying to connect what we are doing now to what we spoke about previously because this is the cannibalism. Right? These are entities that you created that are from your, you know, society. You gave them the option to do it, and now they're just eating you up.

Right? So Yeah.

Exactly. I mean I mean, I I've seen so many people, even analysts, even political analysts who are who are just, like, shaking their head and baffled at what Europe is doing, specifically Germany, what Germany is doing and saying, you know, can't they see what devastating consequences their policies are gonna have on the German people? Why do you imagine they care? This is this is the this is the part that that really kind of touches upon even what sister Wahid was talking about. The the this idea of white supremacy and thus attached to that is this idea of a sort of a white European fraternity or something like that.

That has never existed. That has never existed. They have preyed upon each other. They have been at each other's throats for century upon century upon century. This is all they do.

This is all they have ever done. The only reason that there's been any semblance of peace in Europe since World War two is again because America said there's gonna be peace in Europe. And we're gonna enforce that because it's in our interest to enforce that. When it's not in their interest to enforce that, they revert to form. They're going to go right back to to the same, cannibalistic ways that they've always had.

And why do you think, that these, so called leaders in Europe feel any loyalty whatsoever to their populations? This is your mistake that you think that they're supposed to care about you, because you elected them, because you elected them. You're not paying their bills. You're not paying their bills. You're they they they don't feel loyal to you just because you were stupid enough to vote for them.

Just because you were gullible enough to vote for them and think that somehow your vote, makes them loyal to you. You've been duped. I I don't know what else to say. They're following the money. The same way that you do.

The same way that that that anyone does. But they're doing it on a much higher level, and they're not concerned about you. And the and the policies that they're implementing that are gonna hurt you are not going to hurt them. And they're not gonna hurt, it's not gonna hurt them, and it's not gonna hurt the people who are sponsoring them and paying them and taking care of them. So they don't care what the social consequences are, the the societal consequences are.

They couldn't care less. And and it's your mistake to imagine that they would.

Okay. So now we have covered this idea. Right? You know, who are these people or, like, these entities? What is their goal?

How they will probably be able to achieve it now? And

Brother, you got muted.

Oh, sorry. Sorry. Okay. I do I'm not sure where I got muted or nothing. I didn't say anything.

That's okay. You're back now.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. So I will, inshallah, just say what I said now. So, you know, we have covered the why.

Right? We looked at why this role might now be you know, why Europe will probably now take this role, okay, take on this role, right, of being a conflict zone. We know who is behind it, what is their motivation. Yeah. So we can somehow I think, we covered the wise.

Yeah. But now we have mentioned a couple of actors. Right? So let's now try to look at who are these key actors in this destabilization project. Right?

So we mentioned the OCGFC and their interest. Right? And we'll probably try to look at some of the policies, what is, you know, the benefits through these specific policies. Right? But also brother Shade mentioned Germany.

Right? And I saw in some videos that he also mentioned Poland. Right? And especially with the current updates that are coming from there, there is some role to be played from Poland. Right?

We see that there is a role for Ukraine. Right? That is basically the point from which we get to the destabilization. Right? This is the acceleration point.

Right? We have the Russia. We have, you know, France, UK, Netherlands, and so on and so forth. Okay? So starting with the first player that has already been hinted at, I would like to ask our listeners or, you know, speakers, how has Germany's role as this economic powerhouse of Europe contributed to it being the primary target of this destabilization campaign?

Right? And, basically, the answer is partially in the question, but I would still like to hear from our speakers, like, why specifically Germany has been chosen for this, you know, destabilization campaign? If you can enlighten our listeners, please. Thank you very much.

Okay. I need to check whether or you can hear me because I got kicked out again. Am I am I coming through?

Yeah. I can hear you. I saw people jumping in out. I don't understand this. Allah subhanahu ta'ala.

Are so many glitches on this. Well, the the obvious reason why Germany is being targeted is because it's the industrial heart of Europe. It's it's absolutely the industrial heart of Europe. It's the strongest economy. It's the manufacturing has been the manufacturing hub of Europe.

And it's basically the only country in Europe that actually has something to offer by means of manufacturing or through manufacturing. That's their resource or has historically been their main resources that they're incredibly good at manufacturing and highly productive. So if you can knock out the industrial manufacturing heart of Europe, then the rest is just the cascading consequences of that, that will that will spread across the rest of the continent. I I don't think it's a long discussion to see why Germany specifically is being targeted. And it is being targeted absolutely relentlessly and ruthlessly.

It's it's it's really kind of, I won't say shocking, but it's kind of breathtaking to see the extent of the almost cruel and relentless destabilization and deindustrialization of Germany. It's not something that thirty years ago you could have predicted, but it's it's quite dramatic. It's really dramatic what's happening in Germany. I mean, like I said, what has been this the the the strongest, most robust economy in Europe. I mean, they they they've been in a in a kind of a state of decline for a few years.

But since the since the Ukraine war and cutting them off from affordable energy, it's it's been the the the devastating impact has been very rapid. And and you see the extent to which, mean, that you know, what we were talking about with Europe that that that Europe is actually and and I've mentioned this in the past that that Europe and the West generally, but America a little bit different because America does have a lot of resources. But Europe has always been a dependency of the global South. They were able to pretend that they weren't a dependency because they were able to forcefully steal the resources of the global South. But at the end of the day, if they don't have access to those resources, they absolutely cannot survive.

And you and you can see how fast Germany is falling apart. It's crumbling before your eyes. Just in the in a in a two, three year period. It's it's absolutely breathtaking. And again, the reason for it, why Germany specifically is the target, it's it's not rocket science to figure out why.

Yeah. You're right, brother. Especially, like, one doesn't even have to go, like, thirty years back. I remember even when I was in my studies, you know, Germany was the one carrying the European Union, basically. Right?

So, of course, this is the focal point from which they can, you know, make the house of cards crumble to some degree. Right? So, you know, if the biggest player who is carrying the rest suddenly starts to suffer, probably the one dependent on it will start to suffer as well. Right? So as brother Jade said, it's not rocket science.

I'm just trying to, you know, reiterate for even the people who are maybe here listening first time about this just to understand what the implications are and what is the purpose of it's you know, like targeting Germany. Right? What is it so like? No. No.

Think so.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I don't mean to be dismissive of the question. I'm just saying that that that the question doesn't take a lot of thought to figure it out. But if you're if you're if you're as many people are, you you there's a lot of people.

There's so many people subhanAllah. And and like I said, even you'll find analysts who are who are who can't wrap their head around the idea of the owners and controllers of global financialized capital being interested in destabilizing Europe. Because they they they just have it in their heads that there's some kind of a fraternity, a western fraternity where they take care of each other. And that that the post World War two global order was not based upon interests, but based upon this fraternity. This is your mistake.

And if you're and if until now you still believe like that, then really you're not in a you're not qualified to do any sort of political or economic analysis because that's not what motivates anyone in power. Any sense of fraternity or loyalty to anything other than their own private interests.

Exactly. Like, they usually whenever I say, you know, this evil role of The US, some to some degree, especially with this conflict now. Yeah. They will usually say, you know, even though I know that The US provoked and so on and they are probably the reason why Russia responded, he is you know, The United States are our, like, alliance ally. Right?

And they care for us and we care for them and blah blah. And, like, hello. I clearly get this from, but subhanAllah to each other. Right? I will not, you know, try to convince them that.

But, you know, according to I'm not sure when this poll was. I think it was in 2022 maybe. Might have been might have been last year. But there was a poll where, the majority of Europeans, although it's still, too low to make, to to to commend European intelligence. I think it's around 60%.

60% or so of Europeans believe when asked, they believe that America's interests and Europe's interests do not align specifically on matters of trade and security. So at least 60% of Europeans have some grasp of reality. You still have, you know, 40% who have no idea what's going on. But 60%, which again is the majority, correctly believe that America is not their interests are not they are not aligned with your interests at all. I mean, it's a it it's like I was saying, it it is absolutely not in Europe's interest to sacrifice their economies, their access to energy, their access to markets in China.

It makes no sense for you to cut yourself off from that for the sake of Ukraine. For what? The only reason that Ukraine was ever important was because it gave you access to Russian oil and Russian oil, and gas. That was the only reason that that your Ukraine was ever important to Europe. And now you're sacrificing the the the very thing that's the only thing that made Ukraine important to you for the sake of Ukraine.

It makes no sense what whatsoever. It's completely insane and completely suicidal. And at least 60% those those maybe are 60% of people who don't have Internet access or don't or or don't have television. The other 40% of people who probably watch BBC. The most of the Europeans now anyway, understand that that America is not looking after your interest whatsoever.

And if you're going to subordinate your interests, to The United States, it's not going to turn out well for you at all.

Yes. Sister Rosita? Yes.

Just wanted to say that I began following Usted Shahid's analyses last year and the article six campaign he began and and what have you. And he was viciously almost attacked online for suggesting that The United Kingdom, Britain, and France might support the expulsion of The United States Of America from the UN. People absolutely made fun of him. And I can recall we spent a couple of months having to explain to adults that the reason why The United States would not be able to veto the measure against itself in the Security Council is because when a measure is about a member of the Security Council, the member cannot vote on the resolution or the measure. You know, adults simply didn't understand that, which really disturbed me.

But if you look at the general assembly vote on telling Israel to get out of Palestinian territory, what do you find? You find that exactly what Usted Shahid said might be the outcome of an article six vote happened on that vote, The United Kingdom abstained, and France voted for the measure along with the rest of the global south. So he knows what he is talking about. And there is movement in Europe because some Europeans are waking up to the fact that, in fact, their well-being is no longer aligned with the geopolitics of The United States.

Yes. Sister Wahiddy, you're absolutely correct. A lot of people did make fun of that and did, and did criticize me for that. Obviously that doesn't, that doesn't bother me. I'm I'm just about as used to being told that I'm wrong as I am to being proven right.

With, there's another aspect to it as well, which is that when you understand something about Western psychology and their personality and you understand that for example, it's extremely important to them, to look good and to be perceived as good even when they're not, and especially when they're not. In fact, it's it's very important to them, especially when they're doing wrong. It's very important for them that you perceive them as being virtuous and wonderful. So if they have the opportunity, to distance themselves, once once the crimes, I'm sorry, I know that this lot, this space isn't about the articles article six campaign, but it's important to to consider that once the violations of The United States are brought in an official venue, and and everyone, sees it under the spotlight. This is a great opportunity for France and The UK to try to revive their credentials as people who care about international law and human rights and all of the enlightenment values and so on, to distance themselves and to say we have nothing to do with those terrible war criminals, The United States, And actually the global South should be friends with us.

It's it's it's it's a sort of a habit for the West to throw people under the bus when they become unuseful to them. And and and if by throwing them under the bus it can make you look good, then they'll they'll do it in a heartbeat. So I think that, when, the article six campaign, reaches the United Nations and article six is invoked against The United States, I think you might just see France and The UK use that as an opportunity to polish their own image by tarnishing the image of The United States. Or when the tarnished image of The United States is actually under the the spotlight and under the microscope, then I think that they might use that as an opportunity to distance themselves from The United States, which is something that they actually, for their own survival desperately need to do.

Assalamu alaikum. I absolutely agree with you, Usted. And people have to think about that general assembly vote on the Palestinian and Zionist question question as an act of defiance by The United Kingdom and France. They voted against America's interest in the broad light of day. So that's a sea change from what we are used to seeing from European nations.

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And and you can also look at even the the refusal of of The UK to send certain weapons to Israel, and other European countries that have refused to send weapons to Israel. Because they're intelligent enough to know that when you bring an ICJ case of genocide against the country, you can be implicated if you are supplying them with weapons.

They figured that much out. They were able to see that far ahead, which isn't very far, but they were able to understand we probably need to stop selling weapons to these people because they are very likely to be indicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity, which could then implicate us and implicate our some of the only profitable sectors that we have going. So they were intelligent enough to see that. And America still thinks, they still have the imperial hubris where they think that there's that that they will never be held accountable. Meanwhile, I think Europe and and The And and The UK are kind of looking sideways at The United States and saying, they're kind of out of control and they don't seem to be able to read the room.

But we have a long history of being able to read the room because again, you have a history of being able to survive one way or another, always through vicious means, but nevertheless, you've been able to survive without resources for a very long time. So that that means people who understand how to navigate the reality, the practical realities of the world. America is is in a kind of fever dream of their empire, where they still think that they have the power that they used to have, and they don't have the power that they used to have. And these countries in like, importantly, France and The UK, since they're on the Security Council, France and The UK are able to read the room and understand that there is exactly as you said, a sea change, and maybe they need to not hitch their wagon to a horse that's running over a cliff.

Great points. And just, in relation to what you spoke about, please feel free to join, sign the petition. It's involved the sixth article. Even they have their own Twitter. Tried to post the link to it here.

So, you know, this is a campaign that brother Jade started, and it's about expelling The US from the UN. And this is what was spoken about. So I'm just sorry if anybody doesn't understand this campaign. It's about basically trying to, you know, eliminate the role player from an institution that could basically serve a good purpose, but it's being dominated by a bad one bad apple. Okay.

So just sorry. I will try to shift it a bit back to the actors. I'm, you know, very happy that we get to talk about related topics with this is nothing, you know, to go against it. I just tried to, you know, just shift it back a bit. So there is this second actor.

Okay. So we spoke about Germany. Right? And how it's, you know, just strikes in the eye. Basically, the it's pretty simple to understand the role of destabilizing Germany by means of deindustrializing it.

The other player that for me personally seemed very interesting is Poland. Alright? And there's a video about basically how Poland is acting the same or fulfilling the same role as Honduras did in the campaign against Latin America. So maybe I would just if anybody has any ideas about this or would like to present some points, like, what parallels can we draw between Poland and Honduras in the current context of what is going on? Because when we see previous instances of the same happening again and again, we can probably understand what is to be expected in, you know, Europe.

Right? Because this same destabilizing campaign has happened in Latin America. It has happened in Southeast Asia. And, again, what is very striking is even proceeding to the destabilization was this, you know, certain increase in neoliberal policies, in financializing, in opening the roads for capital. Right?

And once essentially they figured out the they reached the capacity or the maximum capacity of what you know, how can it be profitable, then they go on to destabilizing it, you know, and making it a conflict zone. Right? And subhanAllah just came to my mind now when we are speaking about it. Right? I usually during these spaces, I feel like the light bulbs are just lightening up above my head.

So, yeah, subhanAllah, even the same. Right? You had this financialization, prosperity, hot money pouring into the economies. Then you have a financial crisis like we had in the nineties in Latin America, eighties in Southeast Asia, and the same was here, right, in the February in Europe, right, this debt crisis. And then after this is, you know, finished, we can move on to making it a conflict zone.

Right? But there was one last drop with Europe and especially making use of, for example, these social policies that are implemented somehow in, you know, their societal structure, the COVID, right, campaign and, you know, trying to extract as much as possible still from the taxpayers' money through big pharma, right, and so on. But that's probably the last drop of anything, you know, profitable other than making it a conflict zone. Alright. So just I wanted to think yeah.

So now if we see the same patterns, how can we draw similarities between Poland's role now in this destabilization project and Honduras' role in destabilizing Latin America?

I can take that one if that's alright.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I'll be happy. Thank you.

Yeah. So Poland's role can be likened to the Honduras during the Cold War in Central America because Honduras served as a staging ground for The US backed operations that we saw at the time. And so today, Poland is practically a parallel of what Honduras was at the time because it it's acting as, like, a crucial operational hub for NATO and especially American military interests and especially in the context of the Ukraine war. So this is strategic positioning. It's not coincidental that it is in Poland, and this actually increases Poland's military involvement but also ties its political stability to the outcomes of broader geopolitical conflicts.

So, essentially, it would serve the interests of the OCGFC by maintaining a state of a continual tension and readiness within Europe. So that's how you can tie Poland's position to Honduras during the Cold War in Central America.

Very well said. I mean, it it it's if you followed it, if people have followed it, Poland has been active from the beginning. Right, right from the beginning. Where when they were when they were first recruiting mercenaries, you know, from around the world. Their first stopping point was Poland, and and the American embassy in Poland.

And I I can never pronounce this guy's name. I forgot. I I I can't No. The the Polish, he was Polish, the adviser to successive American presidents, Zbigniew, who was very anti Russian and was was was actually someone who spoke very early on. Zbigniew Brziansk.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. And I'm not going to try to pronounce his name again, but that guy.

He spoke about the destabilization of Europe some time ago and said that the only thing that has held Europe together is having a common enemy, which is the Soviet Union. And that they needed to keep Europe as actively hostile towards the Soviet Union as possible, even if that meant sacrificing them and throwing them under the bus, is exactly what's happening now. His son is the American ambassador in Poland. So obviously, he studied very well at his father's knee. Poland has been the hub for US covert activity for quite some time.

Yeah. US covert activity in Europe for quite some time. It was they had black sites there. The CIA has significant operations in Poland for their COVID activity, especially in Eastern Europe and other intelligence agencies, not just the CIA. And as I say, they were recruiting mercenaries in Poland, training them in Poland, sending them into Ukraine.

They have actively been trying to increase regional tensions in terms of, say, Moldova and Belarus and so forth. They have obviously a military presence. There's all these are all similarities as exactly the same role that Honduras had during the so called dirty wars in Central America. They've been active supporter of NATO expansion on and on and on. Again, this is all almost identical to the role that Honduras played during the during the dirty wars.

The the transfer of arms, the proliferation of arms. I mean, as as we already know, so many of the of the arms, the small arms, not, you know, tanks and whatnot, but the small arms that America has had delivered to supposed to be delivered to Ukraine. They actually removed from the bills about the the transfer of arms to Ukraine. They removed from the bills that those shipments should be tracked. So in other words, we don't even wanna know where they go.

We just want to we we just wanna tell ourselves that they're going to Ukraine. But once they get to Poland, who knows where they go? And those weapons have been showing that they they even showed up in France, some of those weapons. Some some Ukrainian weapons showed up in France. So it's it's a very similar role, and and it would probably be easier just to direct people to the video.

I think the video is called Poland is Honduras. It's now probably two years old or or a year and a half old, but I talk about it a bit more in-depth in that video. But yeah, it's it's a very very similar role, SubhanAllah. Because again, The US has a certain model, you know. They have a certain formula for for what they do and they just duplicate it in one in one place or another depending on which which country they want to destabilize.

They have a formula and they have a model. I mean, you can see even, like what they did in Italy after World War two is very similar to what they did in Greece and it's similar in some ways to what they did in China. You know, they have the they have the same sort of pattern of behavior. So if you're familiar with that, then it helps you in in analyzing what they're doing now because they don't change. They just keep doing the same types of things over and over again in in this country or that country.

Yes. SubhanAllah. And, again, you know, one has to understand this is basically cannibalism. Right? These are not some, you know, different entities from separate from your society.

This is essentially the consequence of your own actions, right, of the actions of your predecessors of you know, even with the increase, like, there is a role also to be played with, I think you mentioned, like, these far right groups, right, the, you know, increasing this nationalistic sentiment, right, against immigration. You know, also, it's a source of their it falls into the strategy of destabilization. Right? And, basically, you can see, like, you know, these OCGFC, they force you somehow or not force you, but you basically collaborate to bomb other countries to extract their resources. Then they leave you, you know, to essentially just eat up the consequences of these actions.

Right? They, you know, go somewhere else. Right? Like, who ends up with the consequences? Right?

And this is greatly highlighted in the video, right, the crisis of consequences. So I would maybe just try to because we can see it in The Netherlands, right, these increase in far right groups. Right? Even the government now is basically a far right government. We saw these riots, right, like, two months ago in UK, in France, different, you know, protests even though they have protests every weekend, I guess.

But there is some tension growing up. Right? And Europeans are aware of this. Right? Even brother Shahid mentioned in some video that they have never felt so divided.

Right? I think it was maybe in this video of the Europe at crossroads. Right? The even the society feels it's being divided. Right?

And, again, this is the same strategy that they employed everywhere. Try divide and conquer. Right? And it's basically the same even though Europe is already conquered, but, you know, trying to seal this conflict, these destabilization mechanisms into the yeah. SubhanAllah.

Okay. So I was maybe thinking, like, how can yeah. Sorry, sister Wahida. Do you wanna

No. I I was just going to say, isn't it interesting that the nations, desperately need immigration the most in order to prop themselves up economically and demographically have suffered from the native population being whipped up into anti immigration frenzies. So the very thing that would help save these countries, and I include The United States. The United States desperately needs mass immigration here because of the population collapse that we are going through. And the people here do actually understand that, but it's been being done in such a chaotic way that the native population, is becoming increasingly hostile to what would help, save this country, and the same is happening in Europe.

These nations that are undergoing depopulation need immigration, but the native population is being whipped into anti immigration frenzies?

Yeah, absolutely. I think that there's, there's, there's a number of reasons for that. But I think, I think just, just from a, a kind of a psychological point of view. When you're, when you, when you were a colonial power, when you used to be a colonial power, and you and you have a certain mindset with regards to people from the global South, from the the a mindset towards the people that you colonized. You don't want them to now feel important.

Now that you need them, you don't want them to feel important. You don't want them to get uppity when they come to your country. They're coming to your country. As you said, they're coming to to to to the Western countries to save them. They're not going there to save themselves.

Okay. Maybe they they're personally maybe they have their own personal reasons for for for trying to escape, the misery and deprivation that colonization, inflicted on their country. Sure. But at the end of the day, the reality is that when they go to the West, they're saving the West. They're rescuing the West, from the West's own failed system.

But the West has this mindset and this mentality, that they don't want these colonized people who are coming over here to feel any less colonized, than they were when they were in their country and we were tyrannizing them. We want them to feel tyrannized here as well. So I think there's a there's a psychological aspect to that, where they're still trying to maintain their supremacy and trying to maintain their higher status, even while they're in this position of dependency and need and desperation. They don't want you to feel, that they're desperate for you. They want to try to inflict upon you and impose upon you and implant in you, the idea that you're in a desperate situation.

And we want to make sure that you feel insecure in this society, and don't start getting confidence and walking around here with your chest out thinking that you're saving anybody. No, we're doing you a favor, and you should never feel, secure in this society, and you have to maintain that feeling of inferiority that we inflicted on you when you were back home. We're gonna make sure that you feel the same way when you come over here.

So now we have understood the why, we have understood the actors, and we are trying to understand the how. Right? And especially through this how, we come, you know, to the third player that basically accelerated this whole, you know, destabilization project, and that is Ukraine. Right? And this is basically as they call it now.

They usually say it's a proxy war, right, between the West and Russia, but, basically, it's a proxy war. And what Stashay tries to convey in his videos is that it's basically a proxy war against Europe. Right? By the OCGFC, you know, when we say United States, we basically mean the OCGFC. Right?

The United States is not like some sovereign. Right? Their policies are based on what the OCGFC wants. Right? So, yeah, now we can finally see how Ukraine plays a role in all of this.

Right? Until now, probably, you like, you understand that Poland might be doing something. Germany, what is the reason for to make it a conflict zone and so on. But now you can see how the puzzle start to fit. Right?

Now you can understand that through this war on Ukraine, right, And, basically, I mean a war by the LCGFC. Right? I don't mean by the other side. But this utilization of Ukraine, basically, it served, you know, an increase in the energy prices. Right?

That was one major part of it, which, you know, Europe is basically dependent on. It served as the imposition of these all of these economic sanctions against Russia, which, again, only basically helped Russia to a certain degree and, you know, worsened Europe off. So now you can see how basically this proxy war in Ukraine is meant to accelerate the destabilization process. Right? It's not some sort of again, it's presented as maintaining democracy, trying to fight for human rights, and all of these beautiful talks.

But the real reason when one's, you know, takes out the emotions and and the ideological convictions that he might have, he starts to see the real picture behind what is going on. Right? And he will also start to understand why all of these steps of provocation of like, everybody now knows that it has been due to provocation, but why this provocation? Right? Like, would they get from Ukraine?

Like, they wouldn't get anything from Russia. They know that, you know, Russia is not a superpower. It has its own problems. It has problems with demographics, same as Europe. So for them, it wasn't really about invading Russia or taking of course, it has some natural resources, but I do not think that they deem this as a viable option.

Right? Then you have China who is partnering with Russia. You have other big nations. It would be a difficult way to do it. Right?

So, you know, just let's make Russia an enemy. We can make use of it anyway. So, you know, I don't know. It's just it seems to fall into pieces. Right?

Into place. The pieces seem to fall into place. Right? SubhanAllah. Like, now one understands how this whole charade that has been played on us, right, in the last two, three, four years fits into this grand project of destabilizing Europe.

Alright? So it's sister Wahida.

Yes. And we must not forget that Ukraine one of Ukraine's major functions during this conflict is to be the conduit for arms to go to the extremist groups of Europe. Half of the arms that have been sent to Ukraine have been illicitly distributed amongst those right wing and other extremist groups throughout Europe. It's how they're getting the arms.

Exactly. And this is also, like, another point that I would like to highlight. Try Highlight. Like, as you said, exactly, like, you know, they are distributing these the the even brother Shahid mentioned how they found the weapons even in France and so on. And, you know, this is, again, connected to this nationalistic sentiment, right, and the riots that we can see across the countries.

So I would maybe ask just sister Samira if you can, like, remember this video, the brother Shahid about The UK Riots. Could you somehow try to link it to this destabilization project? Because we see this across different countries. Right? So maybe just based on UK, if you can, you know, share something that you might feel sister-in-law because she's even in The UK.

Right? How would you view this as part of this destabilization project?

Yeah. I'll try to in general, I'll talk about the destabilization due to the post through the nationalistic movement, the the push to nationalism in Europe, not necessarily The UK. Maybe Sister Iman can talk about that. But from the video that I can remember is that the rise of nationalism is just going back to what we said about OCGFC's agenda. It's kind of it diverts the attention from the real problem, which is what the OCGFC wants is for people to be fighting on something that would divide them.

And this somehow will make the situation weak. And therefore, it just diverts the attention from OCGFC's agenda of they want neoliberalism, as Brother Shahid mentioned. And so no one is talking really about how the elites are exploiting the situation, but they are more talking about how there is illegal immigration, those points that really takes the whole attention away from what the elites and OCGFC are actually doing on the ground. So Europe, as Brother Shade also mentioned earlier on in this life, they had rigid policies in place that was really stern. That's a couple of years ago.

Now things have changed, thanks to the like OCGFC imposing neoliberal policies on them, exploiting the vulnerability of Europe. And so this is the main reason why they are pushing for this nationalism and protectionism in Europe, just to make people fight on something, the public fight on something that is and shift the attention from what the, OCGFC is trying to accomplish, which is to keep them weak and make the policies shift the policies to neoliberalism, and that would then, of course, fill their pockets even more to OCGFCN.

Thank you very much, sister. Yeah. This is always these distractionary tactics. Right? Again, it's the same all the time everywhere.

Right? One just needs to see the patterns, and then he will be able to recognize it in any place in any time. Right? It's the same entities, the same people. They have the same, you know, approach to the rest of the world.

So just try to see these patterns, how they are repeating, and how we are basically now experiencing it in Europe. The same that has happened in Latin America, the same that has happened in Africa, the same that has happened in Southeast Asia, in Asian countries. Right? Once one starts to see these patterns, it's very easy to see it happening now. Right?

So, you know, history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes. Right? So so now just to end this, inshallah, because we have been going for for two hours, and I don't wanna hold our speakers here because, you know, just a common law, you know, they took their time out and to be here with us. So just to try to return it back to the video that we had tried, it was basically at a crossroads. Right?

So that is the main point of this whole talk because we now, you know, try to dissect basically what this situation how we got here. Right? And now we need to say where are we going. So in the video, brother Shahid tried to convey the message that the Europe should try to refocus its attention on to BRICS and global south. Right?

But this is very in my opinion, you know, it's a nice idea, but, like, how would Europe able to benefit anyone? Right? I feel it doesn't have anything to add. Right? There are better resources elsewhere.

There are smarter people are elsewhere. Like, what does it have to offer? So I would maybe try to ask sister Imam Imam. Sorry. Sister Imam if she has any idea how can Europe save themselves.

Right? What what do you personally view as a viable option of moving forward? Right? If you can, please. If you don't want, Inshallah, someone else will take it from you.

I just think that you spoke about it once, in my opinion, in some life. So I just, you know, like to hear you. So if you wanna share with us.

Yeah. I think that one of possibly the only way for Europe to save itself, as you say, would be to drastically reconsider the economic dependencies that we have within Europe and especially concerning the the way we source or consume energy. Right? The reliance on expensive and politically volatile energy imports from The United States Of America and, like, let's say, non Russian sources has practically proven proven itself to be unsustainable and not a way to be able to thrive and allow Europe as a whole to thrive. And so these investments need to be moving towards renewable energy, especially Germany.

So Europe's relationship with The United States Of America has been based on, like, a a I I don't I don't know how to explain it. A passing of reins towards The US, and so it's based on a post World War two economic subjugation that doesn't serve the investment purpose that it served eight decades ago. So it it basically is a bad investment. And with the global South rising in economic significance, I think that Europe needs to make a clear shift in these dependencies that they have and consider creating new alliances and economic partnerships with the global South because they're now the emerging well, they're not necessarily superpowers, but they're the ones who are emerging with more power. We know that the global South owns more of the global GDP than the g seven.

So I think Europe actually must consider forging new alliances and economic partnerships with these global South countries, like these emerging markets to reduce its geopolitical vulnerability. And, essentially, we want it to stimulate well, we don't want it, but it needs to stimulate its economic growth by shifting away from the superpower of The United States Of America and this hegemony that it has over them and essentially moving towards the global South and fit fitting in with the global consensus so they can no longer have this target on their back. I'm sorry if that was really bad explanation. It made sense in my head.

No. It was great, honestly. Thank you very much.

I'll I'll I'll just say something if you don't mind. I think that that Europe has to do some significant introspection and reflection and come to terms with the reality. Because the reality is, as I said earlier, you have enjoyed a status, you have enjoyed a level of prestige and a quality of life, that you never earned. And you are not actually adding a lot of value to the world. You're not adding adding a lot of value even to the global economy.

And you have to just come to terms with that reality and reconcile yourself with the with accepting the proper status that you should have given your geo geographic and and economic restraints and constraints. It's a little bit like, you know, an actor, who used to be, young and handsome and was getting all of the leading man roles. Because, maybe, you know, nepotism or his father, owned the studio. And at a certain point, you know, you age, and other people come along who are more, talented than you and more dynamic than you, and you don't get those leading actor roles anymore. You don't get the the heavy role in the in the movie anymore.

And that's just a reality that you have to come to terms with. And you know, you you need to, don't try to come up with a solution which will enable you to continue having status that you don't deserve. You need to come up with a solution that allows you to cope with the situation and this the status that you do deserve. Even if that means you becoming a cheap labor force for China. It doesn't matter.

You have you have to deal with the reality of your situation. And you have been insulated from having to live with the reality of what your situation is. First by means of colonizing violence, and then by means of American subsidy. But at the end of the day, if you're not able to find a way to add actual value to the world civilizationally, and if you're not able to find a way to add value, to the global economy, well then you're just going to have to accept the status of a country or of a region that doesn't add value, which means that you're going to be subject to those countries that do add value. And if they're, you you better hope that they're going to be benevolent with you, and that they're going to be magnanimous with you in ways that you never were.

And and you may be able to to continue to have some kind of a decent quality of life. But you you can't pretend that you are going to be able to have the the the status, and the the quality of life that you are accustomed to. And there's just not a there's there's no way around this reality, and and that you have to actually come to terms with this reality. The world has already suffered tremendously, from your your, refusal to accept that reality, and to try to obtain for yourself a quality of life and a status that you never deserved. So I think that that when we talk about what Europe needs to do, we have to contextualize that in terms of what, Europe needs to do in order to cope with the reality of this situation, not in a way that can, change the reality of this situation.

Because you have, you have, you have for a very long time been able to defy the reality of your situation. And what's happening now is that your ability to defy the gravity of your real geopolitical and geo economic circumstances, that gravity is setting in and you're coming back down to earth, and you have to actually accept what your real status is going to be from here on out in the world, and you have to find some way to cope with that and not continue to try to find ways to deny it. That's just my opinion.

100%, brother. As you mentioned in the video, there will be no change in the relationship. Right? It was always a dependency, but what is necessary is a change in the attitude. Right?

And Europeans need to humble themselves and understand their position in the global order since the start. Right? And just because you were bullying the rest of the world for two hundred years does not change anything about your value or status or the value that you bring to the rest of the world. Right? Okay.

Thank you very much everyone who was here for me. It was a very beneficial session. I connected a lot of dots, and I hope that you feel the same and that you are walking from here not with depression. But, inshallah, for any Europeans that you have hope that you can still run away. Yeah.

The situation is dire. Right? We're not gonna be, you know, saying positive stuffs when there are not too many to be found. Right? So we have to take reality for what it is and try to prepare for what's probable to come.

Okay. Thank you very much everyone who was here. Sorry for taking so long of your time. I appreciate you all. I appreciate sister Samira, sister-in-law, brother Shahid.

Thank you very much for assisting me here and, you know, giving us these wonderful insights that you shared.

Thank you, everyone, for joining and for the speakers.

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