Middle Nation Content Talks | America's Violence

By our dear sister Samira. The topic concerns the video about the West or The Americas violence and culture of violence, referring to the video, I think brother Shahid did on America does not appreciate the gravity of violence, I think is is the title. So Samira will have a presentation of about fifteen to twenty minutes. And after that, we will have discussion about it. That is supposed to last for about fifteen minutes to an hour.

Okay? So without further ado, Samira, go ahead, sister. Take it away.

Thank you. Thank you, brother Nail. I hope you can all hear me. So this topic, it was chosen by sister Nisa. Of course, I also supported it because due to the recent events, especially Aaron Bushnell's event that caused all the uproar, We just we were discussing the violence that is the the the culture of violence in in in the West or as brother brother Nayil kept saying America, which is basically what the West is in general as we describe it in all the videos, especially with doctor brother Shahid's videos.

So as I was just reading, I I got carried away with the history of America. I I I I've I've known a lot of these things before, but to just go through them again, it's like I don't know how to describe it, but it was overwhelming. So I will just what I will try to do right now is just just to give you a brief brief history on the culture of violence. I wish sister Wahida was the one who was presenting this actually. When I was doing this, I said, oh, wow.

I'm sure we will get some inputs from sister Wahida later on. So as we go through America's violent history, which is always, almost always overshadowed by the splendor of its achievement, But it's really it's an open and shut case in the matter like, it's an open and shut case of the end justifies the means. That's basically what it is. But that what is that end that America is trying to achieve? That is probably a question mark.

If we start from the early colonial period and the conquest of the European settlers arriving on the shores of land inhabited by the indigenous people for centuries And then the brutal saga of colonial violence over their over their territory, their resources, and sovereignty that caused the decline the 90% decline in the indigenous population and the untold suffering from the indigenous communities, leaving wounds that continue to haunt the collective conscience to this very day. Again, we should always think about how does that justify the end. The end maybe is the reality that we are looking at now in these days. Then comes the Western the westward expansion of The United States, further exasperating the cycle of violence. As settlers pushed ever westward, they encountered resistance from the indigenous people who tried to defend their ancestral lands, the atrocities committed in the name of Manifest Destiny.

Manifest Destiny was new for me, but it's a belief in America's divine mission to expand across the continent. Manifest Destiny justified policies such as the annexation of Texas, the Oregon Trail migration, and the acquisition of vast territories all at the expense of the indigenous lives and sovereignty. It was a concept deep deeply rooted in the belief in American exceptionalism and the idea of The United States as a unique and virtuous nation with a mission to spread democracy, civilization, and protestant Christianity across the continent. The stain of violence persisted through the periods of slavery and the civil war defining the struggle for freedom and equality in America. All this is known to us.

It's always overshadowed by the advancement of the technological advancement of The US and what it contribute to the rest of the world. But this is brutal. The institution of slavery built on the brutal exploitation of African peep people cast a long shadow over the nation's conscience. The civil war fought over the question of slavery and the state's rights claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands and tore the nation apart. The cost of freedom was paid in blood as Americans with the legacy of slavery and the promise of emancipation.

Is this means? Does it justify the end? Yet even after the civil war, violence continued to the fabric of American society in the struggle for workers' rights and social justice. American labor movements faced fierce opposition from powerful interests. Working men and women sacrificed their blood in the pursuit of dignity and justice, only to encounter government sanctioned violence, cases of police brutality and systemic racism, which has shaken the communities across the country, exposing deep seated inequalities and injustices within the criminal justice system.

The threat of state violence looms large, casting a shadow over the collective conscience. The depiction of violence in American popular culture, where it often takes center stage as the staple of entertainment, whether in blockbuster movies, prime time television shows, or action packed video games, scenes of violence captivate audiences and command attention from epic battles to high speed chases, from gunfights to explosion, violence is often depicted as thrilling and even heroic, reinforcing dangerous stereotypes and glamorizing aggression as a means to resolve conflicts. Again, there is the sensationalization of news coverage, biased reporting, and inflammatory rhetoric. The media perpetuates fear, division, misinformation, exasperating tension, and fueling the cycle of violence. Perhaps the most troubling is the glorification of violence in American society, where it is often celebrated as a sign of strength, power, and dominance.

From the political rhetoric to social media discourse, the language and imagery of violence pervade the public discourse, shaping the attitudes towards the conflict resolution and perpetuating a culture of aggression and impunity. In a society where might makes right and violence is seen as the legitimate means to achieve one's goals, the consequences are dire, leading to further injustice and suffering. All that I have been saying so far is all internal within The United States. But if we look at the realm of in the realm of foreign policy, where the machinery of war and conflict operates with devastating consequences, Throughout its history, The United States has engaged in wars, military interventions, and conflicts are often in pursuit of geopolitical interests and ideological agendas from the jungles of Vietnam to the deserts of Iraq. American military might has left a trail of destruction and suffering in its wake.

It has has had a heavy toll and innocent lives and destabilizing entire regions. The violence perpetrated by The United States in foreign lands, coupled with its with its impunity, has brought us to the current event, witnessing the live streaming genocide of the Palestinian people, bodies of children, women, and men shredded to pieces by the American war machinery. And somehow this is considered civilization. So what is the consequence that this legacy has on its own society and its place in the world? From the trauma inflicted on its survive the survivors of the violence that it perpetuated.

The intergenerational wounds passed down through families and communities live the legacy of violence casts a long shadow over the nation's psyche. The dominant culture of violence has eroded trust, fractured social bonds, and deepened divisions within its society, exasperating inequalities and fevuling resentments that threaten to tear it apart. Perhaps the most insidious of all is the role of violence in perpetuating cycles of conflict and injustice, both at home, within its borders, and abroad, from the war on drugs to the war on terror, from police brutality to mass incarceration, the machinery of violence continues to churn, accepting the heavy toll on the most vulnerable. By perpetuating systems of oppression and inequality, violence perpetuates a cycle of suffering and injustice that traps its people in a never ending cycle of conflict and despair. So what is the end?

What is the end to all these means of all this violence? If we are to consider that the white supremacist ideology that is is driving all this, so what is the role of the white Americans? Do they acknowledge the legacy that brings about a sense of collective guilt and responsibility? And if they do, is that the the recognition that their ancestors played insignificant role in perpetuating violence against in indigenous people, enslaved individuals, marginalized communities? Does it weigh heavy on their conscience?

If they do, are the white Americans to confront uncomfortable truth truth about the nation's past and the ways in which systems of oppression and equality have benefited them at the expense of others. Would this awareness foster feeling of guilt, shame, and moral responsibility? Would it challenge them to reckon with their complicity in perpetuating systems of injustice? Would they grapple with the realization that the institutions and systems they benefit from are deeply rooted in the history of violence and oppression? If they do all that if they do all this, would they would they then end up in Aaron Bushnell, in another Aaron Bushnell, or would they have other alternatives?

How are white Americans to acknowledge the deep seated inequalities and divisions within American society? What should white Americans do? Do they acknowledge this legacy and that brings about a sense of collective guilt and responsibility? And then what is our role in all this as middle nations to help? Or is it our role even to help the white Americans?

In what way can we do that? And is it as I said, again, the end that they say is justified. But what is that end was the question that I asked in the beginning. And most of the time, that is mentioned as the advancement of democracy, which is, again, question questionable. The innovation and technological advancement that they claim, the cultural influence and diversity that they claim, the economic prosperity and opportunity, and the advancement of human rights and civil liberties.

All these has been questioned. So what is then the end? To what end is The United States or the West striving for with all these victims, with all these carnage that it caused in the region and within itself? So this was the question that I want to discuss later on. I'm almost done.

So the the next part is, of course, America's history of violence for its global and its global reputation and its standing in the world. What has this has caused on its own reputation? As a nation claiming to be founded on the principles of freedom, democracy, and human rights, America has undoubtedly fallen short of its ideals, tarnishing its reputation and undermining its credibility in the world stage from the devastation of war to the erosion of civil liberties. America's legacy of violence has strained its relationship with allies and called into question its moral authority to lead. So one thing that that was mentioned in the video of brother Shahid is that America is Europe's child, exaggerated and honed all the worst and best elements of European society.

So America is the mutant, patricidal, prodigy, offspring of Europe, and supersize everything about its forefathers in itself. That's what brother Shahid mentioned in his video. So if America is Europe's child that honed all the worst and the best elements of European society, Then what is Israel? Israel is the child of America and the grandchild of Europe. The offspring of the mutant patricidal prodigy embodies embodies a sinister force.

Their very existence shrouded in the darkness and malevolence, born of a lineage strained with blood. If that's so, how are we going to stop this intergenerational carnage? And, also, if Europe has caused America and is and America has caused Israel, What next? If we are going to look into Islamic civilization, I'd like to end this whole presentation with one with the verse in forty nine thirteen. Oh, mankind, indeed, we have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another.

Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is knowing and aware. This this ayah, this verse, was revealed on the occasion of the conquest of Mecca, and it was during the time of prayer the prophet asked Sayyid Nabi'el one of the pagans, because he was black. And he said, didn't he find anyone but this crowed man? And so this ayah came after previous ayahs of how Allah forbade backbiting and belittling other people, alerting mankind that they are all equal in their humanity.

So I I end my presentation here, and then we can now start discussion. Thank you.

Brother Shahid, as you are with us right now, perhaps you'd like to, as a white American yourself, maybe to comment on something.

She she she has silenced me. I'm I'm speechless. It's fantastic. You know, as I was listening to it, I she she she mentioned a few times about sort of everyone overlooking America's violence. And that's that's one of the worst things that has happened is that that, you know, the extent to which everyone is has been convinced or has convinced themselves to overlook American violence.

You know, telling telling telling ourselves that that we it's it's it's it's it's ironic because it's like we're telling ourselves that we can overlook how bad America is because of how good America is. It makes no sense. It's like we we because America, advertises itself and claims all of these virtues and claims all of these noble, lofty values, and it associates itself it associates I mean, to use the to sort of use the corporate, lexicon, They associate their brand with all of these virtues and all of these noble, lofty values, that we all agree on those values. We all like those values. They all sound wonderful.

And so, they they've tricked people into thinking that if you are, against America or if you call out America for its crimes, that somehow you're against the values that their brand is associated with, even though they don't manifest those qualities and values in reality. And the only way that you can actually actually abide by and adhere to the the the values that they associate their brand with is by calling out America and by not overlooking their violence and their crime. But they've gotten everyone, you know, in in a in a kind of a stupor and, like, hypnotized into thinking that somehow America is is still anyway, Americans, I'm I'm talking about, have have convinced themselves that that America is still like the hope of the world. That is this, you know, city on a hill, shining beacon of of all of, like, it's the it's the one who's who's who's, carrying the carrying the mantle of all of these great civilizational values, and the rest of the world is in is in darkness and chaos. Never mind that they're causing the chaos, but they're they're they the Americans are still still able to convince themselves that they that they really are the embodiment, that their country is really the the unique special you know, and and as the sister mentioned with divine the manifest destiny, like, divine divinely appointed to lead the world, into goodness and righteousness, while they're consistently, persistently, and insistently doing the opposite.

And it's it's this is this is what causes that cognitive dissonance that I talk about. And she was talking about, okay. You're you're asking me about white Americans. I mean, there's there's the term everyone knows about, and I mentioned it in the Aaron Bushnell video, white guilt, which is I mean, like, for example, I'll tell you just for my personal, experience. When I read the autobiography of Malcolm X in, university, And and it was the the section before he actually converted to Islam properly.

He was he was talking about the nation of Islam, the Elijah Muhammad false prophet doctrine. And their doctrine is that white people are literally devils. And there's a whole section in there where he's talking about, basically, the proof that white people are devils. And I'm reading it as a white person going, I can't really argue with that. The the everything that he's mentioning as as the crimes that are attributed to and that were historically accurately committed by white people is irrefutable.

So it's it's completely understandable that someone, that that any non white person would reach the same conclusion that white people are devils. And it's, so for a white person to read those the same thing, and you don't have to read it in the autobiography of Malcolm X, you can just read history objectively, and you'll you'll it would be very difficult for you to draw a different conclusion about, so called white people, being devils. And what does that do to your psyche except to cause tremendous guilt? And the the the the cognitive dissonance because, I I put in the chat a speech from Hamlet by the king in Hamlet. If you're not familiar with the play, the king, basically, murders his brother for the sake of becoming king and marrying the king's wife, marrying his sister-in-law.

And he is, to a certain extent, riddled with guilt for what he's done. But at the same time, he doesn't wanna give up what he's gotten. He wants to still be king, and he still wants to have the wife. So he's he's he's stuck with what he's supposed to do. He can't repent because he still wants to have what he committed the crimes for.

He he can't give up the rewards or the the treasures that he's gotten as a result of committing the crimes. And this is the position of white people in America. They they know perfectly well. I mean, as I've said also in in other videos, like, for example, my own ancestors, my own forefathers were poor farmers, from Ireland and from Germany. And they're they were relatively recent arrivals in America, so they don't have a direct connection to America's history.

And this is what makes you sort of think about the fact that why it's not accurate to say white people, because you're talking about a class of people who have who who are responsible for the crimes and the the similar crimes and and the similar violence and oppression and tyranny has been inflicted on the the masses of people in Europe, in the, you know, so called white countries and certainly in Ireland. It was inflicted on white people by white people. So we're talking about a whole culture of violence, a whole so called civilization of violence and oppression and tyranny and predation, that is just as I said, it's it's it's a distinctive quality of this so called civilization, of this so called, culture. So but, again, with regards to white people, they have they have cognitive dissonance, which is nothing but conscience suppression because you have to suppress your conscience, because you you still want to, like the king in Hamlet, you still want to retain everything that you've gotten as a result of the crimes, whether they were committed by you or your forefathers or other white people's forefathers, and you're the beneficiary of that.

But the truth is also that in America, everyone is the beneficiary of that. Even the people who have been the victims of America, they're all beneficiaries of that. They all enjoy a higher quality of life than than than the the external victims of America, the foreign outside global victims of America. You know, they're not being bombed, for example, and forced into mines as children to to mine the the minerals to make the cell phones. They have the cell phones.

I I always go back to to what to what Malcolm X actually said after he converted to Islam, was that the only solution for white Americans and then for America overall, the only solution for them, the only possible way out for them, is to accept Islam en masse. They can't be cured by any other way. Because, like I said, when you, you know, you you overlook, it's it's it's when you actually when you actually look at the history, when you actually look at the crimes that they committed, it's absolutely breathtaking. It's astounding. And that anyone can go on as normal and can can can pretend that somehow this society can be normal.

I mean, like I said, I think in in one of the videos, I don't know if it was in that video or not, just chattel slavery. How do you think you can go on after that, after what you did? How do you actually think that you could yeah. How can you convince yourself that your society can be normal after what you did? The fact is you can't be normal.

You you've never been able to address what you did because it's too unspeakable, and because you still want to retain the benefits you got from having done the crimes. So it's they're really in an impossible position, and I don't see any way, that they can ever find their way out of the pit that they're in, except, as I said, if they can possibly recognize the rescue that is the the the rescue ladder that is descended down into the pit for them, the rescue ladder of Islam, if they will climb out of it. But I don't see any other way.

Yeah. That was a very insightful insight insightful bit definitely about the the white guilt and, you know, also the realization that white people are are also oppressed as well. You know, they are ruled by leads that don't don't care about their well-being, their mental or physical well-being as well. But okay. At this yeah.

But I'm sorry to I'm sorry to interrupt, brother. But but this this is this this is another tactic that that that the power structure has to fool people. The invention of the idea of white nationalism, that all white people are one team, when when, every just about every white person in America, if like I said in in another video earlier, if you do look back at your forefathers, they were oppressed. They were serfs. They were, I mean, especially, you know, like, if you're Irish, for for crying out loud, the Irish were in a terrible situation for eight hundred years.

But they they have they they've created this idea of of of a of a white team as if the white people in Europe and in America weren't oppressing each other. You're not on one team. You have they they they try to obscure the real power dynamics and the real system of tyranny, to to make you think, to make white people think that they are exclusively the beneficiaries and, the perpetrators, of of all of the the crimes associated with white people, when they themselves have been victims as well, historically, you know, for centuries by, by a class system. But they don't wanna talk about this is this is something that they they don't want to talk about. So they they they put in your in in your head that that, you know, this like like I've talked about before, this this illusion of white nationalism as if the entire history of Europe hasn't been internecine war between states and territories and even villages and the Vikings and so on.

You've you've been doing nothing but fight each other all this time. There's there's no sense of white brotherhood. There's no sense of one white homogenous team. You've been oppressing each other and fighting each other and killing each other and raping and pillaging each other for centuries. And now you invent this idea, of of one big white team that everyone is supposed to be on.

And and you'll find that most of the people who actually believe in that are some of the most uneducated, impoverished, backwards, and themselves subjugated white people in America. The the people who have who who are themselves completely marginalized and looked down upon by the by the power structure. So it's, you know, it's it's it's there's so many this is what I mean. It's such an intractable problem that you don't even have the way to have the way to have the way to get out of it. Except except, as I said, if if Allah chooses to have mercy upon them and guide them to Islam.

Yes. That's that's entirely true. I mean, if you look back, the European history is riddled with violence and depression and, you know, wars, sectarian wars and wars on many bases, actually. Now I I'd like to take this opportunity to invite our the Middle Nation members to perhaps come to the stage, virtual stage, and express their opinions. Or if they have any questions to sister Samir or brother Shahid, you can post them now.

So okay. Well, you know, I I will I'm a bit biased. I I will start with the sister Waheda. Okay? Because I think we'll enjoy listening to her and learn from her as well.

So if you don't mind, sister, could you shed some light on the topic?

This is a hard topic for me, and I did not expect to feel the level of emotion that I feel. The sister Samira's presentation was just so rive It really called up a great deal of emotion for me. I believe that it is absolutely true at this point that the only out for The United States is the mass acceptance of Islam. I truly, deeply, logically believe that to be so. The level of violence in this society is is is just not sustainable going forward, And I believe that is why we're starting to feel truly deep fissures in the fabric of the American society.

You simply cannot bear the flag of The United States, cannot bear the weight of all of these things without beginning to tear apart. And I did want to ask brother Shahid how he came to the decision to go go through all of the negative things that he went through once he left and still decide to remain a Muslim and remain gone from here. I I think that's a very interesting story, and I would I would like to hear some of that.

Well, okay. That that's a that's a to to get into the specifics of me of me leaving The US, I think, is a bit it's it's a long story. But it was after after 09:11, and I was working for an Islamic organization. And everyone that I knew were involved with various, Islamic organizations in Michigan. We were in Michigan, which has a very large Muslim population, very active and organized Muslim population.

And after nine eleven, as sister Wahida knows, there was a serious crackdown on any Islamic organizations. Several charities were shut down. Several Islamic organizations were shut down and harassed and intimidated by the federal government, by the one or more of the 17 intelligence agencies that sister Wahida always mentions. So the situation in America was already getting incredibly uncomfortable and dangerous. I knew a number of brothers who just, like, literally disappeared off the streets, and no one knew what happened to them, that they were apprehended and never literally never heard from again.

We don't know where they are. We don't know what happened to them. They went to Guantanamo or what, but, I mean, they presumably not Guantanamo because they weren't, you know, on foreign soil, but they just no one ever heard what happened to them. So it was a very, very dark and, and dangerous situation. But even prior to that, I had already before I moved to Michigan, I had already there was the you know, I used to go to coffee shops to write.

And I would and I I I liked going to to the to coffee shops to write because you could sort of people watch, and you could you can write, and then you can distract yourself and look around and and so on to sort of take a break and and and feed your your your thought process so that you can write more. But at a certain point, was in it. I was in I remember very distinctly being in a in a coffee shop, writing something, and looking up and looking around me. And it just dawned on me. I would be so much more comfortable if I looked up from my paper at this coffee shop and I knew that everyone around me was Muslim.

I would be so much more comfortable. And the, you know, the the that that made me aware of the discomfort that I had, looking around and realizing I'm the only one in this entire place that's a Muslim. And that that makes it very difficult actually to to relate to your own society, to your own, population because we just you know, because, obviously, when you become a Muslim, you see the world very differently. You see life very differently, and you take you take your life more seriously than what the the rank and file American does. Americans aren't serious people by and large, and, you know, we can get into, how that has been inflicted on them to a certain extent to to triviality has been inflicted upon them to one extent or another.

So, you know, the the decision to leave, was always lurking in my mind of wanting to leave. I always said, I I always said to myself that, once I had children and if the children once the children reached school age, I wanted to be in a Muslim country. I didn't want to be I didn't want my children going to school in America. And, the the circumstances around, or following nine eleven and the, persecution of Muslims, particularly anyone who was who was active in any way, in spreading, knowledge or talking about I mean, because, obviously, given my own, character and my own nature, what I tend to talk about was politics and, global affairs. And, particularly, I used to I used to speak.

I one of the things that I did for the Islamic organization was to go around the country and sometimes to The UK to talk almost exclusively about Palestine. So anyone who was in engaged in that sort of activity was that you were being intimidated and persecuted by the, by the authorities. So the decision to leave was facilitated by the, hostility of the American government and the American society towards Muslims and towards Islam and basically towards anyone who told the truth. So, you know, the the decision to leave was was partly my own and partly made for me by the by the enemies of, Islam. And I'm not I say enemies of Islam, I don't mean the American people, but you know who I mean.

In terms of the difficulties that I faced, the difficulties the the difficulties that I faced have to do with something that I've talked about before, which is that, we have, in the West, we have people, Muslims, who want to be Muhajirun. But in the Muslim world, we don't have Ansar. So when you go to a Muslim country, you're on your own. You have to find your own way. But, yeah, it's it's it's not that easy to to do it.

But, yeah, I mean, there was never there was never any question about, you know, remaining a Muslim. Alhamdulillah, that was never an issue. Yeah. It it it's it's a challenge. And you just have to decide for yourself, what is the what's more challenging?

The the sort of inconveniences and, bureaucratic red tape and and and expense that is associated with moving to a Muslim country. Is that worse or is that more difficult than remaining where you are? And, the conclusion for for me and my family was that it would be much more difficult to have remained, in The United States.

Thank you, brother, for sharing that. What I would like to do here is invite our sister Haya, who is a Palestinian, to perhaps talk about her perspective on American violence and how it impacts the rest of the world, more specifically Palestine and her people.

Yes, I'm Alaikum. Can everyone hear me?

We can hear you. Alaikum Salaam. Go ahead.

Salaam, everyone. Honestly, this you know, Samira, your presentation, you know, it's it brought much emotions and and pain on top of the pain I already live with. So it was brilliant. So, yes, I am a Palestinian American. I was born in Chicago, raised in Islamic schools in The US.

Then my father when I was at the age of nine years old, my father decided that we had to move to Jordan to, you know, learn our Arabic. We had that time myself and my five other siblings. So we moved to Jordan exactly in the 09/1990 where the the Iraqi the first Iraqi war was happening. So, you know, we learned our Arabic, our Islam, our deen, and then my, you know, my father can't handle more than five years living there because it was extremely difficult for him since he lived in The US for about twenty years or something, twenty, twenty five years. There was not much opportunity work wise.

So we moved back to The US, you know, we were always raised in in the Islamic schools in in in The US. But the the shift from, you know, from moving from The US to Jordan extremely interesting. And when we went back to The US, I was a bit older. I was about I was about 13, 14 years old. I could see the world for what it is.

I could see The US for for what what it was. And, you know, I was waiting for the day that I would just move out. And, honestly, I'm the only one out of my whole family who lives overseas. All my family still reside in The US. And, apparently, like, the way I see it is you have to work on yourself.

Like, each of us needs to work on on ourselves, decolonizing ourselves, rejecting Western influence. It doesn't come easy, and I still actually have to work on my family, you know, in that way because I feel like they've been influenced and it bothers me so much and we're always, you know, fighting, disagreeing, and whatnot. But being a Palestinian American growing up in The US and then also in the Arab world, I guess I took the best of both worlds, inshallah, hope hope and Yani. But it is it is I mean, it brings pain seeing Muslims suffer for all these years. I mean, I grew up watching the war on Bosnia, Iraq, you know, and all the other worlds.

It's and then nine eleven and and what brought to to Muslims. I was there as well. I witnessed it. It makes me difficult and and scary. You know, we had our local mosque burn, you know, people killed, just, you know, randomly shot.

It was it was difficult. So I don't honestly, I don't know where, you know, this will lead. But inshallah, this is the reason I am in Middle Nation, and I'm passionate about, you know, our campaign. Insha'Allah, I believe with all my heart that, you know, if we work hard, we will be able to reach to, you know, reach to the level that, yes, Muslims will be in power one day, and The US will be expelled or, you know, whatever the the the outcome would be is is is better for for for the world. And I asked a question on the chat is, what is it?

And this question always is on my mind. Why is it that the voices of evil is much higher and and powerful than the voices of the good people? Like, if we The US, I think there's a lot of good people. There's a lot of good white people and and and all this. But why is it that our voices are weak?

Is it are we not doing enough? Are we being lit you know, are we lazy? Are we not doing what we should? Are we not organized? I mean, we have to get to the bottom of this in order to start moving and mobilizing in an efficient, effective manner.

So, you know, that that is my question, and I'll rest my mind there.

Sister, for all of the Muslims in the world and all of the people of the global South, I I think we have to remember that there are people who sometimes literally, like with the Bilderberg group, there are people who sit around the table and plot and plan and scheme in order for things to happen to our countries the way that they happen. And, conversely, Muslims do not sit around a table, plot, and plan, and scheme to harm western nations. We do not do that. So we are getting this tremendous negative push from them, and we don't we're not a kind of people to give back that same kind of negative energy. So, we should not feel badly as a people or as groups of Islamic nations, because we just have to remember, this is these people's intent.

That's their intention, and we do not have a similar evil or negative intent. We're we're just trying to manage ourselves. We're not trying to take them over. They are not just trying to manage themselves. They are trying to take us over.

And that's a major difference that we must remember so that we're not too self critical. You know, we are the good guys in this equation. We really are.

Well, I understand. But the thing is, why is it we know evil is there and plotting and planning all the time even evil never sleeps. Why is it we don't strategically predict the outcomes before it hits us, you know, and and and to counter attack that? Why are we Muslim or Arabs or whatever? We're always looking into finding solutions against or to to counter, you know, or to push these these enemies or their well, their you know, what they planned or what they plotted.

So that, you know, that that just I don't know how to go about that, but I I'm not sure if it's, you know, guys understanding. But, I mean, this question is always constantly on my mind. It's like we know that evil doesn't sleep and we know they plot and plan, so why aren't we ready to counter attack that in a strategic manner?

If somebody has an answer, this is where you can present it, hopefully.

Maybe can help me with you know?

You know, to be honest with you, it's such an intriguing question, and it and it it it actually probably deserves a a whole separate discussion, to be honest. That's a very deep subject to to try to analyze. I completely understand what you're saying, and, obviously, this is something that I've I think all of us have have wondered at some point continuously. I I I I would I would actually I I I don't wanna disappoint you, but I I would rather take time on this this particular topic for its own discussion. It's a very deep topic.

Well, why don't we, for example, adopt it for the next week talk? Like, because we were at the end of the talk, we were supposed actually to come up with next next meeting talk, what are we going to talk about?

I think that's not a bad idea. That's a that's a really good subject. Even though it's not directly the it's not directly about the Middle Nation content, but in a way, it is. Because to a to a certain extent, I I think and I hope that what we're trying to do with Middle Nation is exactly what sister Haya is talking about. We're trying to Absolutely.

To be proactive, you know, and trying to trying to strategize and prepare ourselves, prepare our and equip our to do exactly that, to do exactly what she's talking about. Just to to strategize and to be ready and to be equipped to not only respond, but to preempt the the efforts of, basically, of Shaitan and his and his soldiers. So I think I think it would be a good topic, inshallah, for the next one.

It would also be amazing if we had a video maybe explaining, you know, with explaining, you know, the how we can do this or go go out with this exactly.

I mean, when you when you I saw I saw your question be in the in the chat before you mentioned it now verbally. I saw the question, and immediately, I started thinking about content for a video. So inshallah, I'll I'll put one out for you.

Sister, wanted to ask something? Go ahead.

No. I we just call it being on the back foot in my community. And, so that's that's what we mean. We're we're constantly reacting to something negative instead of being able to come up with a way to be proactive.

I mean, you know, I think sister Wahida said it quite well. I mean, in summary, you can sort of put put put her her explanation kinda comes down to the fact that goodness isn't aggressive by nature. Evil is aggressive by nature. So, you know, this is this is kind of the difference. We're we're we're we're sort of always in this position of reacting because we're not aggressive.

We're not we're not trying like, as she said, we're not trying to take over. So, you know but but the but the point that sister Haya is making is, yeah, but we know that the aggression is there. So we should be we should be preemptive about it. We should strategize about it. We should operate in the world knowing that this is an oppositional force against us.

So we should as as sister said, we need to get off the back foot or at least a segment of our community needs to get off the back foot and be proactive. But I think I think it comes down to the fact that goodness isn't aggressive.

I agree with you. I I really think it is the difference in the nature between that which is good and that which is evil. And, you know, we we we're not just a people who sit around planning to suck all of the life and and blood from another people to tuck up under our behinds. We we don't do that. And it becomes very, very hard for us to live the constant state of reaction to a system that does operate that way every day.

Well, yeah, I mean, that's probably a topic for a whole segment. So perhaps we can discuss it at length next week.

Brother Jaheed himself is proof of how Islam works and saves people because there aren't too many people whiter than me. But he he has just given that up as an identity, which which was actually always the point. It it's very instructive that this is our our leader. I know he doesn't like that word, but he came up with this concept and put it out. And because we are Muslim, none of us has any problem with what he looks like or where he was born.

Now that is unique to the way of life of Islam. It really is.

You know, it's it's something that I've I've touched on in some of the videos, I think, and I I probably should should expand on it. Because I I always whenever I whenever I do a video that's that's, you know, highly critical of Western so called civilization, I I inevitably get comments from Westerners. And I'm assuming that they're white Westerners because I generally don't get any any sort of negative feedback or reactionary feedback from non white Westerners because they see and have experienced what I'm talking about. But white Westerners generally get defensive, and they'll say, it's it's not it's not the people. It's the government or it's the power structure or whatever.