Middle Nation Content Talks | Reflections on Psychological Colonization

Assalamu alaikum, everybody, and welcome to another Middle Nation content talk. So today, we will be having only one speaker. That will be brother Esgur from Germany. And he will be speaking about quite an interesting topic. The title is chronic decolonization.

It is based on couple of middle nation videos that were I think though they were aired this month as far as I remember. So brother Asgur will speak for about fifteen to twenty minutes depending on time usage. And then after that, we will have open q and a and discussion about the topic where I invite everybody to participate. So, brother, if you are ready, please take the mic and go ahead.

Yes. Thank you, first of all, and to all of you. Yes. I'll just start right away. Today's topic revolves around the Quranic psychological decolonization of the Muslim mind in the global South.

Firstly, I intend to base the talk around the two videos of the serious quranic psychological decolonization of episode one and two of mister Shahid Bolson's insightful and spot on analysis. I will take the same approach as mister Shahid Bolson, and the the order of how he proceeded to explain the topic. So, yeah, let's dive right in. In order to understand the mentality that is behind the colonial mind, we first have to identify what are the root causes of the colonial mindset. And there are a couple of them, which I will explain now.

First of all, the western civilization, they have, like, a very distinct dissatisfaction with what they have, and that leads in essence to ungratefulness. So this is paired with that circumstance that there is this strong feeling that they deserve more than they actually have. And the dissatisfaction and and gratitude, just to outline it once again, that comes with not being happy with what they have, basically turns into main three intersected internal sicknesses. You could call it as well as spiritual sicknesses, which firstly, one of it is the love of the world. So their spiritual ailments not ailment, but their sickness is firstly love of the world, then secondly, greed, which results out of the love of the world.

And at the same time, they rationalize their greed and give themselves justifications on deserving more. And thirdly, coupled with that, there is pride and arrogance or haughtiness, which I would call it, which results in racial superiority. And the entitlement of deserving more because they have the sense of being superior and are better than everyone else is the actual cause of their onslaught and their whole yeah. I could say brutality that they further with. So the deep materialism which results out of the mentioned spiritual sicknesses is the basis of violence, the pillaging of resources of the global self, and the imposition of their psychological reframing of their superiority in relation to other cultures and religions such as Islam, and in particular, Islam.

They instilled in us being inferior due to your inflated self value, which is artificial and only an illusion and as a and and a result of their internal sicknesses. In conclusion, the western colonizers have a deep, almost traumatic feeling of being deprived, and their deep insecurity leads them to go overboard and do whatever is in their might to compensate their insecurities by willfully dominating the rest of the world and make the rest feel insignificant. But in reality, the West is themselves insignificant, and they want us to feel the same way so that they can exploit us in the same instance. So what I just said is basically the the ground of which they operate. So this is what mister Shahid Bolson laid laid his groundwork in order to further explain why the western colonizers are the way they are.

So then mister Shahid Bolson, after his analysis of the root cause of western colonialism, basically identifies the West's superficial and satanic approach to govern the world with essentially Kufr being the main factor and catalyst of their whole existence. It is a civilization of Westwassa, as he said, and their civilization is led by Westwassa. And this is transmitted through generations or, yeah, from generation to generation. So there is, like, a there is this deep insecurity and paired with their, for example, leads them to give in to those egotistic and narcissistic feelings of of in order to actually impose their will onto the world. Yes.

And in comparison to our Muslim heritage, we base our civilization on Wahi, that is revelation and the basic conduct of how to be a decent human being. So we have core values that promote piety, knowledge, justice, and truthfulness. That's what he basically said. And we are being carried by morals and principles which prevent us from exploiting other cultures and civilizations as long as we hold on to these principles. So the Muslims actually contributed and empowered others to help themselves and be better beings instead exploiting and causing havoc around the globe like the West did.

Mister Shahid Bolzin in the video then in the second video. So this is basically a a summarization of the first video, and I think that there's still some I couldn't really break down the whole video because that will be probably too much to to talk about. But then in the second video, mister Shahid Boseman continued to compare the western civilization as the beta males, and the alphas are the superior or, let's say, the real superior civilization, for example, the Muslims. And he took this alpha and beta males theory in relation to us being the superior civilization. And being beta, as the West is, the West is driven by jealousy and insecurity, which results in aggressive and oppressive behavior towards the alphas.

So they forcefully impose their beta driven ambitions to put us in a submissive position by acting out in violence and pillaging and trying to put fear in our heart. And at the same time, they managed to make us believe, actually, that their materialism is proof of their superiority and that we are basically inferior and should adopt their ways. What I find very interesting is that mister Shahid Bozin compared the West psyche to a very narcissistic and insecure and self driven, yeah, nature. Yes. And the thing is that he was right because as, like, a as, like, a beta to be if you if you put it in that terms, you always try to get get to the alpha civilization or, like, to the alpha male or female.

It's it's not just it's not just constricted to the male to the male sex. And, yes, Right now, what I'm going to attempt is, like, talk a little bit about the colonial mentality. The colonial mentality is defined as the perception of ethnic and cultural inferiority and a form of internalized racial oppression. So when they for example, I take Turkey as a as a as a good example. When they tried to break down the Ottoman Empire Empire and when they tried to take over, they used, as Said Nursi said, they used materialism and racism as the basis of dividing the whole Ottoman Empire.

So, basically, what they managed to do is their own self and self their sickness that they have in themselves, that they try to spill it over to other nations and other civilizations in order to divide them and make them insecure and abject in their nature in order to govern them to govern them. So yes. And what they what they managed to do successfully is that they tried to, through humiliate humiliation and ridicule, they managed to instill in us an inferiority complex, which I myself am suffering from as well. So just to interfere with that with a with a personal experience, when I I'm I'm, like, of Turkish and Kurdish and Serbian descent. And I was born here in Germany, so I'm technically a German.

But in my youth, I didn't really realize it until later. I was just bombarded with racism and and, you know, the the Westerners or, like, the Germans in in particular, they tried to they tried to undermine my personality. They tried to give me, like, suggestions. For example, at school, my teacher said I should become a carpenter and that this is really the way to go and that I'm that I should pursue that career and and not go to the not go to college or not go to a higher school where education is provided or higher education is provided. And I kinda find that odd.

And I was I was I was not really understanding when I was younger that they're actually trying to trying to undermine me. Like, they they see me as inferior just because I have another that I'm from another race and that my religion is different. So their whole it is very it's quite interesting that they that they, all of them or most of them I'm not talking about all of Germans because there are some Germans that are really very nice people and good good hearted, and this is this should not be a generalize generalization. But the thing is is that they feel themselves they give themselves more value to themselves, and they feel that they are very yeah. That they are superior and that they and even though they aren't and even though they deep down their heart, they know that they are insecure and not really able to be as talented as as people from other races or religions, they intentionally they intentionally persuade one in order to make you feel bad, in order to make you and and in order to make you feel less worth.

And this is basically my personal experience of, yeah, with with the with the West because or it is very and and I really actually, I really found that it was very traumatic for me to experience that because I'm I'm I'm just I have, like, a lot of talents, and I think I'm reasonably intelligent, I hope, not to not to be haughty or, you know, prideful or something. But they push you down. They they don't they don't want you to succeed. They don't want you to actually hold position or have, like, a have, like, a say in in something. And they're always trying to they're always trying to undermine your personality.

Yes. And this is this was my personal experience right now, and what I wanted to present now were solutions in order to fight or overcome the whole the whole conditioning that I am suffering from. And first of all, I would suggest to actually have self respect, just demanding respect in every encounter. That was that was just what I came up with. And just to and to demand respect.

So if someone is being disrespectful to you or treating you different just because you're a Muslim or, like, not their race and and not share their ethnicity, there should be there should there should be a strict and boundaries in order to stay stay your ground. Yeah? And then there was a very interesting thing that I heard from Islamic scholars. They said that I don't know if I'm right, but they said with the with the haughty people or with the prideful people, one must be prideful as well. So if they treat you very like, with discontent and and with with with bad manners, you should reply in the same way.

And this is kind of conflicting with being, like, humble and and and just, you know, being a decent human being. But I think that even Sheikha Herodz, he's a scholar of of Islamic theology, and he said that there there's it's like a parable. There people there are some people there like sheep, and there are people like wolves. And in order to deal with the wolves, the sheep sometimes have to act as wolves. So not just not to get hurt.

Yes. And then another solution for me would be remembering the favor of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala of being in the ummah of god's elect. That is one of the one of the solutions that I come up with. And seeing through the facade of their mind games. Like, I'm talking about the the western civilization or, like, let's say, the westerners when they try to undermine your personality or just, you know, trying to attack you and they trying to just go off on you, seeing through the facade of their mind games and and perpetual degradation of our core values and practices as Muslims, then we should actually just stay strong and just stay with our principles and and just don't let us let us be yeah.

Just yeah. So that they didn't so they they they don't they don't have a chance to attack us. Because what they what they actually do, and this is what mister Shahid Balsam has has said as well, is that if they're if if you stand your ground as a Muslim and if you get attacked by non Muslims, especially the Westerners, then they're always trying to bring up the things that that are controversial or that shouldn't be controversial, but they're trying to say, like, for example, the the age of Aisha, and the marriage with her, it displays their own sick minds, yeah, that they're to impose on you. So one should not get distracted by their their tactics to actually be be intimidated by their things. And I think that we as Muslims should just just stand stand strong and just whatever the consequences are, just stand our ground.

And lastly, I thought about understanding one's own history to understand the present. So for example, the golden age of Islam in Al Andalus was very much and and almost all the all the epochs of the Islamic civilization is filled with knowledge, with with advancements in science and technology as well. And just to make just to make clear that we are the originators of this whole progress that the West is inhabiting themselves. So just some just to just to remind ourselves to actually see reality for what it is. And there there is a there is this this how could I say?

Just being prideful about the contributions that the Muslims have invented and just have just made made it made it made human civilization to flourish and to yeah. Flourish. Yes. And, basically, there was an encounter with one of my teachers back in the days, and she was a very, very nice teacher. And I really regard her and high.

I hold her high. She empowered me in in in in my Islamic pursuit and in my she she empowered me in my German as well, and she was my German teacher. And she said and she was the first one to admit that all the innovations and all the progress that the West is is is masquerading itself with actually comes from the Muslims. And that was, like, a very that was, like, a very nice encounter for me that she was actually confessing that the Muslims were the ones that actually drove innovation and science and and knowledge as as a as a whole. And but most of the most of the westerners are not able to they cannot even be they they're not able to accept the fact that we are superior.

And I'm not speaking about I'm not speaking of a superiority that is like the westerners have, like the the the the unjustified superiority. But we're actually we're actually superior in terms of piety, in terms of knowledge, in terms of justice, and in terms of being righteous as a as a human being. And I think this is one of the this is one of the hallmarks of the Muslims, and we should regain that. And I think I'm probably finished right now. I'm sorry for just being that yeah.

Yep. That's about it.

Yep. Well, thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you for your talk. That was quite insightful, actually.

And I loved how you inserted your personal experiences and made that made that very much potent. So I really appreciate that. Now I'd like to invite our dear members to maybe comment on brother Asgur's talk or perhaps ask some questions. So please go ahead. If

Assalamu alaikum. Yeah.

Well, go ahead. Yeah.

Actually, this is a very, very good talk. I mean, it relates to most of us and the timing as well. I would like to actually add something to what he was talking in the about the first video about the root of, colonization in terms of spiritual sickness of the West. And I think it actually goes back to the sense of the way he the way he put it, the the holy spiritual foundation, which is actually based on Kufr. And I think we can actually relate that with what is actually happening right now.

Take, for example, the the the the the Armageddon thing. They write stuffs. I mean, like, these people are so much so in their that they can actually play with whatever they think was a part of a scripture, even if it is nonexistent, just to suit their their need, just to, like, play with other people, to dehumanize other to, like, psychologically hurt and harm the the rest of the people who are like, for example, Muslims are are are actually taking Al Aqsa for a spiritual I mean, in the holy site. And it's like, the the entire Muslim world is, you know, like, holding their their stomachs, like, what is going to happen? You know?

And these people are, like, playing with them, just using some kind of, you know, their holiness in terms of spirituality, in terms of, what actually matters in in relation to to to to religion and faith. And I guess that actually what I'm trying to say here is the way they they look down upon, other people's faith, but, necessarily the root of their paganism and their their their their of of seeing others. And I I I love the way, brother said something about the way they want, the rest of the world

to

feel insignificant, which is actually their sickness trying to, like, spill it over to other people. And they use that to actually undermine others other people's, culture and faith and other things and, you know, to to to loot them. And I guess, as brother said as well, the the the solution again is to to remember the favors of Allah to us, but also for the westerners, I guess, as brother Shayd said, to reconnect to the ummah because it's like we do the Muslims in the West are not like in a alone. There's more than 2,000,000,000 Muslims in the world, and you can just connect with the rest of the ummah and you feel that power in that, status that we are having, the maqam that Allah actually said that we are the best ummah for the way we do, our relations, with others like Tamruna Belmaruso and and I I guess this is what we can do. But the other thing I I I think it is very important with regard to what he was trying to relate to his personal encounter, the way he's been, like, taken for, you know, a carpenter.

You are no more like you. You're not like us. You will never be like, you know, in in the West. I guess this goes back to them. It is their sicknesses, as he said.

I will just give him an example. For example, I was walking around in one of, these student houses, and you will find the address on the door, the names, they are all, perhaps, most of them, they are Turkish. They are Arabic. They are from West Africa. They were like these are like engineering colleges and medicine colleges and and other important profession.

And and this also brother has already said it. Like, most serious profession are taken up by migrants or descendants of migrants. And the and then the migrants are hit like south of the West now, but they cannot swallow it. It's like they cannot fight it. I remember I was with this.

Yeah. He was a German person, and, he saw these names in this world, lot of names with this Turkish background, Arabic background, and he was like and it was an engineering college and was like, you know, we Germans are stupid because we are, like, taking arts and, you know, illiterate and stuff, but serious stuff like medicine and stuff are like the foreigners are the one who are actually serious with them with that. And that's how the world is going. And looks like the Muslims, again, is going to save the West. I mean, Europe to be specific.

That's how that's what I wanted actually, contribute to this, and it is a very nice, very nice kind of topic. And it relates many many ways to the state of Muslim around the world. I wanted just to say that and contribute that. Thank you.

Thank you, Val. Always always appreciate it to to hear your your comments as well. And, yeah, obviously, I mean, we all have personal experiences dealing with supremacists, right, with, you know, a certain demographic of westerners. Because like brother talked about earlier, I mean, obviously, you have, you know, lots of westerners who are aware of that fact and they they they are trying to redeem themselves, and they're trying to get rid of that, you know, supremacist mentality. Right?

So I don't think we can paint everybody with the same brush. Now I don't really want to go on too long here. Does anybody have any other questions or comments? Anybody you you check something or maybe you'd like to to ask further about this experience. Alright.

I'll I'd also like to add something to that, which which is something I've just experienced recently, and it's often that a person come across this where people believe, and I believe actually did a video on this, where people believe that Western education is equal to the benchmark, and it's not. Because each person, each culture, we are all different, and that doesn't mean that we all need to be learning those same things and those same skills because we are different. We were made different for a reason. And somebody like ONX, obviously, little sort of a debate type of a thing, and he said to me that something about his child, and it's about the Internet, and his child can go anywhere in the world, and we are going to be stuck in Africa in our mud huts. And I'm on who said something's wrong with living in a mud hut?

Not that we live in mud huts, but who said that that's that anything's wrong with that. Why do you need to have those large mansions? Why is it that we are they want to instill in us that that is value when other things we find other things valuable, such as relationships with people or, you know, communication or learning how to work with your hands and and gardening and things like that. We don't all want to go to school and learn how to become an employee for somebody and make them rich. So, you know, that that is basically the essence when it comes to Western education.

They want to instill in you that that is superior, that is the way to go, and that's the only way. That is civilization. Nothing else is civilized. Only that is civilization, which a lot of people are starting to believe it, but I think a lot of people, most people in the West still believe that their way of life and their education is superior, and it's not. So that's what I wanted to contribute.

Thank you.

Thank you, Lisa. Thank you.

Yeah. I'd like to add to that actually, if I may Go ahead. About, you know, Western education and and skills. Am And I audible, first of all? Can I just have a confirmation on that, please?

We can make a lot unclear. Everything's alright. So go ahead.

Yeah. I mean, the it's being covered in the video. But, again, the perception is, like, in all fields that the the benchmark is the West. But the practically speaking, if you've experienced it, if you've experienced medical facilities and medical treatments in all of these so called, you know, backward third world countries such as India or Turkey is not exactly third world, but, you know, you will you will, you know, just through experience. Like, Shahid mentioned, he experienced in Gaza.

You know, you see that they are skilled, advanced professionals in all areas of of expertise. And, also, like Nisa mentioned, you know, like living in mud huts, like, the the the the diss in the dismissiveness in in pointing out that you live in a mud hut is also something that we need to extract ourselves from. You know? So what? That so what attitude.

You know? Like, for example, I'm an I'm approaching I'm a, you know, almost middle aged lady. Why do I have to listen to advertisers hard selling expensive skin care products to me when I have accessible natural not exploited resources that can help me, you know, maintain my quote unquote youth or, you know, everlasting, you know, whatever skin suppleness, or whatever it is that they are using the advertise, you know, to promote these products, you know, and to make women feel bad. I know these are there there's so many layers to this. You know?

They they do this through their advertising, to coerce us to consume, products and, things that we don't need. You know, you spend like $3,000 on a on a on a cosmetic product. Okay? And you don't even know if it works, but because you spend that amount of money, you have to believe it works. When, in fact, the key ingredient of most functioning ingredient in that, entire product is castor oil, which is easily accessible anywhere.

You can get it at a pharmacy for a couple of bucks, and you can just apply it, you know, and and and you get the same same results. But but a lot of us don't want to believe that, or we just we are we're just so taken on taken in by these promotions and advertisements and and all of these forces of colonization that's always in our faces, you know, that's taking over our senses. You know? And and we this this is a there there's a lot of work to be done to extract this to for us to be extrater to extract ourselves, you know, out of. Like, simple things like toothpaste.

You know? Even like like, now you see toothpaste having charcoal added to it. You know? In India, we use charcoal to to to brush our teeth, and and it's fine. You know?

It it common, cheap, accessible, resources, used by many people in the third world, by the poor, and you look down on it, but you don't hesitate to use their ideas in exploiting their ideas and mess, producing it in your corporate, corporations and and and selling them for exorbitant prices just for profit, not just for money. Yeah. That's it. That's all I have to say.

That was very passionate, Selma. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. I'll always a pleasure.

I'm in the middle of preparing for Iftar, and and, you know, my mind is a little scattered. So I'm sorry if I raised my voice too high. I'm trying to get things together as well.

It's fine. Don't worry. Don't worry. It's still totally alright.

I'll be off, and and the clinging and planning is going to start again in the beginning.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. I believe, Janana, would like to to say something. I saw you unmute yourself.

So would you like to contribute maybe?

Hello, everyone. I just want to add a little comment.

Go ahead.

I can confirm the experience to 100%. I grew up also in Germany. I now live in Switzerland. And there I I read some somewhere. There are no official instructions to the teacher, but they said to them to not to promote foreigner students to the better school.

Otherwise, they want a better jobs on who should work to the factories. What I find the safest is that I feel most of us don't realize that. I don't think they suppressed, but they just don't realize it. And for me, the only way to wake up is to learn about our own history. And for me, Andalus is a must for every Muslim.

This history is 200 suppressed in the West. Jumped from the antique from the wrong straight to the second World War.

Sorry, sister.

And for this reason, we have to take the initiative ourselves and teach our children the true history, I think.

Sis sister sister can you unmute your mic, please?

Yes. So the

Can you hear me?

Yeah. So somebody had the mic the mic open. Yeah. We had about that, actually,

I I do have a question.

You know, we obviously come from the background. Right? And, I mean, I've never really lived there. You know, they tend to, to be honest. But do you think that the the future is bright for, you know, expats living there or trying to make a life there?

And how do you think the local community will accept people in power who are not from there?

They wouldn't accept, I think. It's my personal.

Mhmm.

Never. Right. But it's my personal for me, I don't see a future in the rest for the Muslims.

Because of the attitudes that Yes. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah.

So the develop the future for children in the West. Mm-mm. I don't think so. It would be possible.

And have you personally experienced any, like, discrimination? Or I

am the only foreigner in where I work in the office. The only. It's a big it's very difficult to get this job.

No.

And I I think I would possibly be the the the last former there. It's very difficult. It's very for in the smaller places. German is bit different because that many foreigner. But in the smaller places, they pushed us back.

I don't know. But I don't see a future for my children in the West.

Well, in West, you know, you can migrate maybe to to some some of the more tolerant country, hopefully.

I work on this. I work for me, for the western Muslims, I think, is the best place for now Turkey.

Right.

Because you have the West with the Islam. I I say every time to them, the for me, the real democracy is in Turkey.

Well, actually, we we do have sorry. Because

you can be a doctor with the hair scarf or the with the mini rock. There you can be. There's no problem. But here is a big problem.

You mean if you

were in

hijab. Right?

Yes. Yes. Hijab. So Right. Yeah.

In the Turkey, you can be down there. No problem. I don't think there is a problem of this.

Right. Yeah.

But here is a big problem.

And then I have a thought to you too.

This might be the reason as well. I I don't think maybe London is a bit better, but the Switzerland is hardcore. My presume has experience. Yeah. Yes.

See. I think we we might might have Selma on the mic as as well. Selma, would you like to add a comment maybe?

To be on I'm I'm I I should I I forgot to unmute it. I was I didn't intend to speak. Sorry.

Okay. No worries. No worries.

Actually Can I ask something?

Was actually thinking through your. So go go ahead.

So, basically, I would not advise to come to Europe or to Germany, but it's not a lost case. So I'm not thinking that this is going to be very difficult for Muslims as long as the right wing parties are not in power. I think if there is a paradigm shift within the within Europe and if they would actually approach Islam in a different way, there there would be there would be a very huge difference here. Because most of the Germans, even though they're racist or most of the Europeans, even though they're racist or think that they are superior, they still have, like, these qualities that are very that are very admirable. So, basically, they're right on time.

They work hard. They they have principles. They're they're kind as well even though they might have prejudice prejudice and and and and these type of things. In in terms of the future of Europe, I'm really concerned because of of of the ramifications of the war in Ukraine and Russia. So that could be a a a potential problem here.

I don't know how it will play off, but I think that it might be very dangerous to be in Europe. But in general, I like the nature as well. So I do a lot of I do a I do a lot of hiking. I do a lot of walking and and, you know, taking a walk and and all that stuff, and the nature is very beautiful. And, yeah, I'm planning on leaving this country in a couple of years after I, you know, just have, like, my success in my in my profession.

But it's there are a lot of factors I wouldn't advise to actually come over here. Yes. That that's about it.

Val, would you like to add a comment?

Yeah. I think what brother Oskar is saying is right. And brother Jad actually amplified this in some of his video, I I think, when he was speaking about the rise of the white the the right wing in Europe. We've seen it done in Belgium. We see it here in Germany and in other countries, in Poland, and, like, indeed, it's very powerful and in in in London as well.

So it is, I think, very dangerous to actually have as a Muslim, thinking to have a a future, like, you know, be, like, moving freely to to the world in this part of the world. But the other thing I wanted to actually connect with the entire talk of today is that we see the role of media the way the way Samuel was talking about how we consume this information about media, and it affects how we see ourselves. Actually, that is the goal of the colonization and the media as a tool, actually the most powerful tool for the colonization project. And the same goes to what the way they they they impose on us their whole spirituality their spirituality sickness as brother also started up his presentation with. The way they want us to perceive ourselves is, you know, if you are not materialistic enough, you're a loser.

And we see this in media. So in in in in in sense, we need to regulate how we consume information from media, how we perceive our education or perceive ourselves, how we see our faith in everything. We it has to be from within, from our faith or from our culture where we are actually rather than looking up to to to the western media, which is actually dominating and is is all these propaganda and stuffs. I wanted to say that, and I think I'm done.

Yeah. K. Jump in.

Go go ahead, Joanna. Go ahead. Thank you. I

think the problem is because we don't know our history. This I think this is the major problem. I have learned about andalus permacipher. Have this wow effect. What's going on?

Well, don't never come across to the school with this. Never. And I think this is the problem. We don't know our history. We must we must teach our children with the history, with the right history.

Like, this will this will be the key for the future for us. Hello?

Hello, Go ahead.

Hi. Can you guys hear me?

A lot clearer.

So I just wanted to confirm what Smiley and other Oskar said about their superiority or actually, should I say inferiority complex that these people have when we come to their countries. And what you said, Smiley, about learning our history, it was exactly that made me survive these attacks from these people is because my family instilled a sort of knowledge of my own history in me so that I could be so that so that I could be proud of where I came from. Because, well, I come from a country plagued by war. So I wasn't born there, but my family was back many times to try to go back there to see if the situation could be better. So I saw a lot of horrible things in my childhood, but nothing that I saw in that war and country traumatized me more than, like, grown white people in Europe, in the safe space of Europe.

Like, as a child, if I would excel as a student, this would be this would cause annoyance than a teacher who would want, like, probably the ethnically Europeans to excel more. And this would obviously, this affected me as a child, you know, my it caused the shyness and it it lasted all the way until adulthood still, but, like, they can't help it because the people who are better in Europe is usually like the foreigners. They are the better workers. They are the better students and they can't they can't stand that. And so from childhood, it's been like yeah.

It's been like a nonstop trying to degrade where where we come from in our religion. And to adults, like, even to this day, if I say that I'm going back to visit in my country or I'm going to The maybe The UAE, it's like their reaction, like, oh my god. How could go to those countries the way they treat people? And it's like but at the same time, meanwhile, they're going to Israel to join in the pride or whatever. But they have the nerve to tell someone like me how can you go to a country like UAE.

Meanwhile, I've never been treated as well as I have in my own country of Afghanistan or in UAE as a woman. I've never been treated that well in, for example, Europe. So, yeah, that's just what want to say. And what Smiley said about learning your history, this is really what made me survive these sort of attacks because the pride that my family instilled in me, always taking me back home, always reminding me of who we are and why we are the way we are. This is really what helped me stay somewhat decolonized.

Thank you, Ivan. Thank you for sharing your your experience about that. You know, to be honest, it it pains me to hear it because, you know, it's not something that we enjoy talking about. The the the racism that exists in our communities, European communities. It's really a and migrant crowd.

That's a lot of us can't really understand very well. So I really appreciate you coming forward to speaking out. Okay. Well, is there anybody else that would love to comment or maybe the top

Just one last comment, if I can.

Okay, Trana. Yeah.

The every time say, why are in the West if don't like the West? I have the right to be here. I think so. I have to. It's my right because you destroyed my country, and it's my right to take this back what you destroyed.

I don't feel this. I have to thank them. No. It's my right to be here. You deserve my country.

This is what you have. Fine. That that's it. No. I don't say thank you because you you no.

Sorry. This is what I think about this. I'm not thankful. I wouldn't be here if you don't destroy my country.

Absolutely.

This is what you this is what you get. This is my right. I take my rights back if you do. Don't give me. I take my rights back.

I I this I think this is what I think about this.

Yeah. I think Janana might have some some conflicts down the road with her colleagues around.

I have my irony. I put I always the irony there.

Yeah. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. We definitely should have that mentality and,

you

know, mind people of why did you political conditions that first, obviously. That's the brilliant color. Do we have any any other comments?

Yeah. I have something to add a little bit.

Go ahead.

Love the the points that sister Janana brought forward about this about, this colonization thing. And, yeah, you absolutely have the right to reclaim what was taken from you. I mean, if you if you look back into history, which is the other point that, sister Jinana brought up just now, we have about five about five centuries worth of, you know, our lands being plundered, being you know, all the resources from our lands being taken back to their to their countries and to build them up. So in fact, there is nothing nothing at all in the West that does not come from from all the years of colonization, exploitation, plundering, and whatnot. And the other point about history that she she brought up earlier, yeah, we have to always be aware of the the the methods that the the Western colonialists always employ in even until today.

If you if you try to relate to it in terms of in terms of the resistance that you encounter when you're trying to promote your your decolonization agendas, like, for instance, the the article six, for instance, you'll find the same exact patterns again and again. It's firstly, divide and conquer. They will try to pit you against one another, and then they will make all these empty promises, like, to one party and yeah. To one party and to to sort of, you know, to diminish the the promises to the other party. And they all they will always try to do it in a multiple multiple approach to things.

But, anyway yeah. And the other thing that you'll you'll you will find and you'll encounter in in in our push for our campaigns is that they will all try they will always try to discourage, demoralize, and demotivate as at at the infancy of our our movements. Like, they will say things like, oh, you know, article six will never work because The US cannot be expelled. They are a prominent member of the securities council, blah blah blah blah blah blah. It goes on and on.

So yeah. So, anyway yeah. There there's a lot more examples that I can quote, but I think since we are probably running out of time, maybe just one more. There's a saying that history is written by the victor. I I know this is not not exactly an Islamic quote or something, but it's it does remain quite true.